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there are no catch-all explanations (as to why alternative energy sources aren't used)... but there are lots of conveniently overlapping reasons. a significant portion of energy demand could easily be addressed through wind energy. wind energy is actually at par with natural gas in terms of harvesting expenses, even though there are no mass production facilities manufacturing wind turbines to drive the production cost down. despite the relatively marginal research efforts, wind energy technology has progressed to such efficiency that it requires nearly just about the same amount of land and financial input as natural gas to exploit its energy potential. the last time i checked the price of natural gas averaged somewhat around 5 cents per kilowatt hour. during the 2000 price spike, it jumped up to 10 or 11 cents per kilowatt hour. contrast this with the estimated figure of 4.7 cents per kilowatt hour for harvesting wind energy. these non-replenishable solutions aren't as far fetched as most people think. the state of Texas could readily satisfy its energy grid's demands by appropriating wind farms in west texas and along the coastal regions. all you really need is a minimum of 15 mile per hour winds at an altitude of 50 meters or so.

then you have this "myth" of U.S. dependence on middle east oil. the US currently gets about 14% of their oil from the middle east... whereas Europe gets about 70% and Japan gets about 90%. the oil rights themselves are owned largely by multi-national corporations. the Arab countries really exercise very little control over the resource production on their land.

regardless of such realities, it's certain there is an energy grab in progress. i believe the oil-dominated global energy infrastructure is intentionally and artificially maintained as the dominant source of energy in the post-industrial world to create a superficially sustained hierarchial global wealth structure. the finite nature of oil makes this possible because its limited supply assures that only those with the most capital have access to it, since the price of its acquisition and manufacturing increases with its scarcity. the more wealthier countries have the greatest access to this resource as a result, and the poorer nations have the least access to it. this is important because energy is the primary determinant of any and every form of economic development. oil then becomes a de facto mechanism of geopolitical control that subjugates poor nations into subservient dependence on more developed ones. many people make the mistake of under-estimating the significance of energy supply in stabilizing national economies. it would be a mistake to assume the third world is where its at simply because of a lack of money or human resources. the energy required to develop or maintain industries is simply not there.

as it stands now, most of the energy resources are extracted from poor, developing or "third world" countries... and manufactured in the west, then re-sold back to their countries of origin at significantly higher prices. industries in the city of Houston manufactures something to the tune of 20% of the world's petroleum resources. its not uncommon to find that the efforts of nations producing the raw materials to actually develop their own refineries often end-up being frustrated, stifled or disrupted by various external forces... but imagine the scenario that would result if renewable energy supplies become the global norm.

the existing energy hierarchy would be almost instantly destabilized. human capital would have no problem flocking to so-called developing countries once the opportunity to maintain stable industries presents itself.

but lets ignore alternative resources for a minute and examine oil. we've had the technological capacity to develop far more efficient mechanisms to utilize it. there was this scientists whose name i can't remember right now that invented a carburator engine for a vehicle capable of transporting 11 people back in the 1920s or early 1930s. this engine was able to provide something like 200+ miles per gallon... and other examples of how we could easily transform into a more efficient energy consuming society clearly demonstrate how the status quo we are dealing with today is being artificially imposed by the powers that be.

when you go deeper into the root causes of WHY this is the case, i believe it becomes a myriad of issues circulating around ideological motivations.

the present energy standard makes no fiscal sense, makes no environmental sense, and makes no social sense. its as if the global society is intentionally being driven to a destabilizing point of conflict. i'm not sure how much longer the politicians and business elite could keep using that "cost-effective" argument against renewable energy, but its pretty much baseless, IMO.

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The race for oil & the dynamics of global energy policy [View all] , FireBrand, Wed Mar-02-05 07:05 AM
 
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Here is some in depth info from a reliable source.
Mar 02nd 2005
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'98 Central Asia, Afghanistan and Russian Hegemony.
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A conservative article from 2001 on central asian oil.
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A socialist perspective from '97 on Central Asia.
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Facts on Central Asian fuels, and American/Taliban link.
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Background on the invasion on Iraq.
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contd...
Mar 02nd 2005
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Ya'll lemme know when you are ready to start talking.
Mar 02nd 2005
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what does the North Korea situation have to do with oil?
Mar 02nd 2005
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      I've read the Grand Failure by Brezinski...
Mar 02nd 2005
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           RE: I've read the Grand Failure by Brezinski...
Mar 02nd 2005
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                word...I don't totally agree...
Mar 02nd 2005
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                     RE: word...I don't totally agree...
Mar 03rd 2005
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                     Word.
Mar 03rd 2005
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                          yeah you gotta beat them in the marketplace
Mar 03rd 2005
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                     the german mark doesn't exist anymore
Mar 05th 2005
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                          It did at the time that all this was coming to a head.
Mar 05th 2005
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                               now i'm lost
Mar 05th 2005
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                                    how so? The entire process for this was over
Mar 05th 2005
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                                         hmmm
Mar 05th 2005
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                                              Word? well then I am mistaken.
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                   de rien. and
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                                                        I see.
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                             hmmmm
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                  LOL
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                                                                  lol
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                       I knew when I saw that Twinning, that u were bongo.
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                            ah
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                                 When they were talking about trying accomdate
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                                      yeah
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                                      Nah, it just looks effed up is all I'm sayin.
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                  I'm not laffin at u, I'm laffin at the fact that I had no clue.
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                       and you know what ?
Mar 05th 2005
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                                                                            Well, I aint got to explain to you basic budgeting...
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                                                                                 the u.s. is done
Mar 16th 2005
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                                                                                      I agree that it CAN be. Why do you feel that way?
Mar 17th 2005
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Question RE: Alternative fuels....
Mar 02nd 2005
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You said it. It's about money. Think of the conversion.
Mar 02nd 2005
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The knuckledraggers aren't even considering it...
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RE: The knuckledraggers aren't even considering it...
Mar 03rd 2005
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      But if it is proven that the dollar is what drives
Mar 06th 2005
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      Great answer. I remember we talked about this
Mar 02nd 2005
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      Really, really a great answer.......
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Bush's record on energy policy and more...
Mar 04th 2005
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Its the Culture and monitary system.
Mar 04th 2005
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so what does one do?
Mar 04th 2005
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      RE: so what does one do?
Mar 05th 2005
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           so you will eat a cookie?
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                RE: so you will eat a cookie?
Mar 10th 2005
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                     So you come online to say that
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                          RE: So you come online to say that
Mar 11th 2005
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                               RE: So you come online to say that
Mar 11th 2005
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                                    No, I read your comment wrong- forgive me.
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Italy and the Iraq shooting (courtesy of 3X)
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Russian/Iraqi relationship ( courtesy of 3x)
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up
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Popular mechanics on 9-11 (originally posted by 3x)
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House of Saud (originally posted by EAS)
Mar 10th 2005
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Is this what they said? Much of this is suspect.
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New FTW Article.....
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this post says it all
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