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122. "London's Mayor speaks out"
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Ken Livingstone:

Not to speak out against this injustice would not only be wrong. It would ignore the threat it poses to us all

Ken Livingstone
Friday March 4, 2005
The Guardian

Racism is a uniquely reactionary ideology, used to justify the greatest crimes in history - the slave trade, the extermination of all original inhabitants of the Caribbean, the elimination of every native inhabitant of Tasmania, apartheid. The Holocaust was the ultimate, "industrialised" expression of racist barbarity.

Racism serves as the cutting edge of the most reactionary movements. An ideology that starts by declaring one human being inferior to another is the slope whose end is at Auschwitz. That is why I detest racism.

No serious commentator has argued that my comments to an Evening Standard reporter outside City Hall last month were anti-semitic. So I am glad that Henry Grunwald, president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, accepted on these pages that "Ken is sincere when he states that he regards the Holocaust as the worst crime of the last century".

The contribution of Jewish people to human civilisation and culture is unexcelled and extraordinary. You only have to think of giants such as Einstein, Freud and Marx to realise that human civilisation would be unrecognisably diminished without the achievements of the Jewish people. The same goes for the Jewish contribution to London today.

As mayor, I have pressed for police action over anti-semitic attacks at the highest level, and my administration has backed a series of initiatives of importance to the Jewish community, including hosting the Anne Frank exhibition at City Hall and measures to ensure the go-ahead for the north London eruv.

Throughout the 1970s, I worked happily with the Board of Deputies in campaigns against the National Front. Problems began when, as leader of the Greater London Council, I rejected the board's request that I should fund only Jewish organisations that it approved of. The Board of Deputies was unhappy that I funded Jewish organisations campaigning for gay rights and others that disagreed with policies of the Israeli governmen.

Relations with the board took a dramatic turn for the worse when I opposed Israel's illegal invasion of Lebanon, culminating in the massacres at the Palestinian camps of Sabra and Shatila. The board also opposed my involvement in the successful campaign in 1982 to convince the Labour party to recognise the PLO as the legitimate voice of the Palestinian people.

The fundamental issue on which we differ, as Henry Grunwald knows, is not anti-semitism - which my administration has fought tooth and nail - but the policies of successive Israeli governments.

To avoid manufactured misunderstandings, the policies of Israeli governments are not analogous to Nazism. They do not aim at the systematic extermination of the Palestinian people, in the way Nazism sought the annihilation of the Jews.

Israel's expansion has included ethnic cleansing. Palestinians who had lived in that land for centuries were driven out by systematic violence and terror aimed at ethnically cleansing what became a large part of the Israeli state. The methods of groups like the Irgun and the Stern gang were the same as those of the Bosnian Serb leader Karadzic: to drive out people by terror.

Today the Israeli government continues seizures of Palestinian land for settlements, military incursions into surrounding countries and denial of the right of Palestinians expelled by terror to return. Ariel Sharon, Israel's prime minister, is a war criminal who should be in prison, not in office. Israel's own Kahan commission found that Sharon shared responsibility for the Sabra and Shatila massacres.

Sharon continues to organise terror. More than three times as many Palestinians as Israelis have been killed in the present conflict. There are more than 7,000 Palestinians in Israel's jails.

To obscure these truths, those around Israel's present government have resorted to demonisation. Initial targets were Palestinians, and have now become Muslims. Take the Middle East Media Research Institute, run by a former colonel in Israeli military intelligence, which poses as a source of objective information but in reality selectively translates material from Arabic and presents Muslims and Arabs in the worst possible light.

Today the Israeli government is helping to promote a wholly distorted picture of racism and religious discrimination in Europe, implying that the most serious upsurge of hatred and discrimination is against Jews.

All racist and anti-semitic attacks must be stamped out. However, the reality is that the great bulk of racist attacks in Europe today are on black people, Asians and Muslims - and they are the primary targets of the extreme right. For 20 years Israeli governments have attempted to portray anyone who forcefully criticises the policies of Israel as anti-semitic. The truth is the opposite: the same universal human values that recognise the Holocaust as the greatest racist crime of the 20th century require condemnation of the policies of successive Israeli governments - not on the absurd grounds that they are Nazi or equivalent to the Holocaust, but because ethnic cleansing, discrimination and terror are immoral.

They are also fuelling anger and violence across the world. For a mayor of London not to speak out against such injustice would not only be wrong - but would also ignore the threat it poses to the security of all Londoners.

· Ken Livingstone is the London mayor

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“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice. Remember, God is the best of Protectors and well acquainted with all that you do.”
-Qur’an 4:135

"Don't be deceived when they tell you things are better now. Even if there's no poverty to be seen because the poverty's been hidden. Even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which industries foist on you and even if it seems to you that you never had so much, that is only the slogan of those who still have much more than you. Don't be taken in when they paternally pat you on the shoulder and say that there's no inequality worth speaking of and no more reason to fight because if you believe them they will be completely in charge in their marble homes and granite banks from which they rob the people of the world under the pretence of bringing them culture. Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they'll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces."
--Jean Paul Marat, 18th Century French Visionary (and revolutionary), murdered in his bathtub by Royalist Charlotte Corday


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Germans force French city to take down anti-Nazi sign [View all] , zewari, Fri Nov-19-04 04:02 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: Germans force French city to take down anti-Nazi sign
Nov 20th 2004
1
lol
Nov 20th 2004
2
Ha!
Nov 20th 2004
3
seriously
Nov 22nd 2004
47
It's irony...a flip-side to the coin
Nov 20th 2004
4
Man, I think you're going about this the wrong way.
Nov 20th 2004
5
Zionists policies heavily mirror Nazi tactics
Nov 20th 2004
6
      You can do better than this.
Nov 20th 2004
7
           the Nazi comparison is completely valid
Nov 20th 2004
10
                no its not
Nov 21st 2004
13
                the analogy stands, and you are confusing the issues...
Nov 21st 2004
15
                     RE: the analogy stands, and you are confusing the issues...
Nov 21st 2004
17
                          was that supposed to be a serious response?
Nov 21st 2004
18
                          No it wasn't, it was a gut reaction to your ignorance.
Nov 21st 2004
29
                               I'll respond after finals cause this is bullshit...
Nov 21st 2004
30
                                    Did you even go to the other sites?
Nov 21st 2004
31
                                         answer the question
Nov 21st 2004
32
                                              RE: answer the question
Nov 21st 2004
34
                                                   do better.
Nov 21st 2004
35
                                                        Do better?
Nov 21st 2004
38
                                                             you said that specific article was HATEFUL...
Nov 21st 2004
39
                          Co sign this guy
Nov 21st 2004
27
                RE: the Nazi comparison is completely valid
Mar 08th 2005
124
                     look @ this tough guy here.
Mar 08th 2005
126
How can I take you seriously
Nov 20th 2004
8
read response #10
Nov 20th 2004
11
      How does that make it any less offensive?
Nov 21st 2004
14
      you are reacting emotionally and illogically
Nov 21st 2004
16
           Read Mein Kampf
Nov 21st 2004
19
                incomparable.
Nov 21st 2004
20
                     How so?
Nov 21st 2004
21
                          read again.
Nov 21st 2004
23
                               RE: read again.
Nov 21st 2004
25
      what does anti-semtic mean?
Nov 21st 2004
41
           even more so...
Nov 22nd 2004
65
                Co-freakin'-sign
Nov 22nd 2004
66
                     yup i agree
Nov 26th 2004
82
this IS a legitimate comparison....
Nov 20th 2004
9
Picture and article about the anti-Sharon sign
Nov 20th 2004
12
Blacks force klan to take down burning cross.
Nov 21st 2004
22
read posts #10 and #15
Nov 21st 2004
24
      Im making a fair analogy
Nov 21st 2004
26
           Actually that analogy was gross
Nov 21st 2004
28
                I agree
Nov 22nd 2004
42
                     while i won't comment
Nov 22nd 2004
43
                          Neither does his
Nov 22nd 2004
44
                               point taken, however
Nov 22nd 2004
45
                                    I can make an analogy for anything
Nov 22nd 2004
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                                         RE: I can make an analogy for anything
Nov 22nd 2004
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                                         RE: I can make an analogy for anything
Nov 22nd 2004
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                                              Yes it is
Nov 22nd 2004
67
                                                   That's it right there
Nov 29th 2004
91
                                         you are LYING
Nov 22nd 2004
50
Jewish professor accused of "anti-semitism" by Canadian Jewish Congress
Nov 21st 2004
33
RE: Jewish professor accused of "anti-semitism" by Canadian Jewish Congr
Nov 21st 2004
36
      triple major
Nov 21st 2004
37
           Respect, thats alot of work.
Nov 21st 2004
40
Ha'aretz: Israel-Nazi comparison is VALID
Nov 22nd 2004
49
you still put a misleading title on this post
Nov 22nd 2004
56
      is that supposed to be a serious comment??
Nov 22nd 2004
57
           the title was
Nov 22nd 2004
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                its called symbollism.
Nov 22nd 2004
60
                     that's a bullshit defense
Nov 22nd 2004
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                          I'm not defending anything cause there's nothing to defend
Nov 22nd 2004
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                               because you didn't post it as an analogy
Nov 22nd 2004
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                                    the analogy was freakin' OBVIOUS
Nov 22nd 2004
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                                         I have 3 more
Nov 23rd 2004
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                                              yeah... ok
Nov 23rd 2004
69
                                                   well it read kinda like bitterness
Nov 23rd 2004
70
Einstein & 27 prominent Jews compared zionists to Nazis
Nov 22nd 2004
51
Rabbi Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl asks 10 questions to zionists
Nov 22nd 2004
52
Collection of statements from Rabbis AGAINST zionism
Nov 22nd 2004
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      Rabbi Mordechai Gifter: ZIONISTS ARE MURDERERS
Nov 22nd 2004
54
British Jewish MPs liken Gaza to Nazi Ghettos
Nov 22nd 2004
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^up for the zionist appologists^
Nov 26th 2004
71
You gonna cry cos people disagree with you?
Nov 26th 2004
73
all you do is 'object' cause you can't validate your argument.
Nov 26th 2004
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      I posted some sources for you to ignore
Nov 26th 2004
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           on what planet?
Nov 26th 2004
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                On planet bullshit
Nov 26th 2004
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                     that's a stupid objective.
Nov 29th 2004
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                          Sure it was
Nov 29th 2004
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                               FACT is NOT OBJECTIVE
Nov 29th 2004
90
                                    So you believe in universal truth?
Nov 29th 2004
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                                         FACTS are not subject to interpretation
Dec 08th 2004
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                                              Its not indisputable though
Dec 14th 2004
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                                                   1+1=2
Dec 14th 2004
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                                                        Numbers are symbols
Dec 15th 2004
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RE: ^up for the zionist appologists^
Nov 26th 2004
74
      the charge of anti-semiticism makes NO sense
Nov 26th 2004
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           RE: the charge of anti-semiticism makes NO sense
Nov 26th 2004
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                RE: the charge of anti-semiticism makes NO sense
Nov 29th 2004
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up
Nov 26th 2004
72
so, you're anti semetic?
Nov 26th 2004
81
nope, i AM semitic
Nov 27th 2004
85
you sound like a damn nazi
Nov 27th 2004
83
you're anti-semitic
Nov 27th 2004
84
Israeli TV EXPOSED Zionists' EUGENICS Campaign
Nov 29th 2004
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Jerusalem Post: Over 50% of Germans equate IDF w/ Nazi army
Dec 08th 2004
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Who are they to talk?
Dec 08th 2004
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      people w/ first hand experience of Nazi tactics
Dec 08th 2004
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           Clearly not
Dec 08th 2004
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                so only people who've been to israel can understand...
Dec 08th 2004
100
                     Nope
Dec 08th 2004
102
Israeli soldiers expose maniacal belligerence towards defenseless Palest
Dec 08th 2004
94
Soldiers are belligerent?
Dec 08th 2004
96
      you represent rejectionism @ its worst
Dec 08th 2004
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           What am I rejecting
Dec 08th 2004
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                you're rejecting the criminality of zionism
Dec 08th 2004
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                     RE: you're rejecting the criminality of zionism
Dec 09th 2004
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                          you seriously place Palestinian terrorism on par with Israeli terrorism?
Dec 14th 2004
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                               Sigh
Dec 14th 2004
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                                    this is exactly why you're a pathetic rejectionist.
Dec 14th 2004
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                                         BOO
Dec 15th 2004
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                                              you're either delusional, in denial, or willingly rejecting FACTS.
Dec 21st 2004
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                                                   I question your "sources"
Dec 28th 2004
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                                                        you are thoroughly disgusting
Dec 28th 2004
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                                                             Yup, that solved it
Dec 29th 2004
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UN Resolution 3379 identified zionism as a form of racism
Dec 21st 2004
114
request to archive
Jan 20th 2005
118
anti-NAZI is NAZI
Jan 22nd 2005
119
hhhwaaaaaaaatt??? (c) Lil' John
Jan 22nd 2005
120
      it was creative license
Mar 08th 2005
123
Israeli measures to silence the voices of truth
Feb 11th 2005
121
RE: London's Mayor speaks out
Mar 08th 2005
125
crack really is a helluva drug
Mar 08th 2005
127
Wonderful, a corrupt turncoat hypocrite speaks out.
Mar 15th 2005
128

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