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Tue Mar-15-05 09:57 AM by Nettrice

  

          

>i think yes. human beings are able to experience duality and
>god cannot.

God is not human and you can thank The Great Chain of Being for confusing folks. All animals can experience what you call "duality" because this is part of the same universal flow that makes the rest of nature change. This is the reason why animals can sense fear or trust/compassion. It the sense of connection we feel with nature...well some of us feel it.

>how can god be in any way
>related to duality, or the nature of evil, if god is the cure
>to evil. evil cannot cure evil. so god cannot be evil. if we
>are able to experience duality, and god is not. why not? or
>why?

God is nature and transcends this world (the only thing we think we know). What we experience is a drop in the bucket as far as what is happening in the universe, thus, our drive to travel the cosmos, to clone, to control the environment. We want to be what we don't even understand. We are forever stuck with our limitations, trying to place God in our own framework. It'll never work...we can only destroy ourselves. Duality (and free will) gives us a choice.

"In the Age of Perfect Virtue, men lived among the animals and birds as members of one large family. There were no distinctions between "superior" and "inferior" to separate one man or species from another. All retained their natural Virtue and lived in a state of pure simplicity...

In the Age of Perfect Virtue, wisdom and ability were not singled out as extraordinary. The wise were seen merely as higher branches on humanity's tree, growing a little closer to the sun (Great Chain). People behaved correctly without knowing that to be Righteous and Propriety....

They did not concern themselves with Justice, as there was no injustice. Living in harmony with themselves, each other, and the world, their actions left no trace and so we have no physical evidence of their existence." - Benjamin Hoff

This Age of Perfect Virtue is also the "Garden of Eden" in the Bible. It is in Asian texts, as well. How is it that we base our humanity on this story but have no evidence of it? It gives us something to attain or strive for. This is one side of who we are. The other becomes more and more manipulative and violent towards the earth and more socially and spiritually limited. Life is becoming more miserable and we need something else to balance this. Thus, the need to attain a state of Perfect Virtue. This who thing or process is part of a Divine, universal flow-- all of it. The more separate we become the more unbalanced and destructive.

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are human beings more powerful than god? [View all] , BarTek, Mon Mar-14-05 11:44 PM
 
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ummm....Let's assume what you're saying is true.
Mar 14th 2005
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RE: ummm....Let's assume what you're saying is true.
Mar 15th 2005
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      Interesting
Mar 15th 2005
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      RE: Interesting
Mar 18th 2005
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           RE: Interesting
Mar 18th 2005
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                RE: Interesting
Mar 20th 2005
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      RE: ummm....Let's assume what you're saying is true.
Mar 18th 2005
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Dude, you just blew my mind!
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: lol
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: lol
Mar 15th 2005
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hmmm...i never thought about that...
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: Dude, you just blew my mind!
Mar 15th 2005
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might be an atheist perspective....
Mar 15th 2005
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cosign
Mar 15th 2005
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yeah same here
Mar 17th 2005
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well said!
Mar 15th 2005
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Predict my response..........
Mar 15th 2005
8
great response
Mar 15th 2005
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Jesus was tempted by the devil, so the capacity
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: Jesus was human...
Mar 16th 2005
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      We Christians believe Jesus is God
Mar 16th 2005
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           Uh oh...
Mar 17th 2005
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                Next time you bump into these folks ask them to interpret these
Mar 17th 2005
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                     RE: Next time you bump into these folks ask them to interpret these
Mar 17th 2005
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                          There isn't a distinction between Jesus and God in those verses
Mar 17th 2005
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                               RE: There isn't a distinction between Jesus and God in those verses
Mar 17th 2005
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                                    Again, you've only established a relationship between two
Mar 18th 2005
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                                         But this isn't what your post is about
Mar 18th 2005
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Why does God have to be good?
Mar 15th 2005
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Humans invented God
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: Humans invented God
Mar 15th 2005
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lol...
Mar 15th 2005
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hrm?
Mar 15th 2005
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I hear you, but...until a Human can
Mar 15th 2005
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they do it millions of times a year, it's call sex.......
Mar 15th 2005
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      really...on what Planet can I find you and that conduct?
Mar 15th 2005
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           yes, this is what you are missing.....
Mar 15th 2005
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           oh yey...got 1500 posts to show I REALLY missed that...
Mar 16th 2005
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           Earth.
Mar 17th 2005
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                I would call that modifying/maintaining a productive nature...
Mar 18th 2005
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RE: Heck no *Edit*
Mar 15th 2005
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      RE: Heck no *Edit*
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           RE: Heck no *Edit*
Mar 16th 2005
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                RE: Heck no *Edit*
Mar 16th 2005
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come on now
Mar 15th 2005
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no, we are not.
Mar 15th 2005
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What the hell are you talking about?
Mar 15th 2005
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the fundemental flaw...
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: the fundemental flaw...
Mar 16th 2005
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      RE: the fundemental flaw...
Mar 16th 2005
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           RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 16th 2005
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                RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                     RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                          zuh?
Mar 17th 2005
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                          RE: zuh?
Mar 17th 2005
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                               fine
Mar 17th 2005
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                                    RE: fine
Mar 17th 2005
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                                         God knows evil, for God created evil.
Mar 18th 2005
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                          RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                               RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                                    RE: 'God does not play dice with the universe' (c) Einstein..peace nm
Mar 17th 2005
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                                         RE: ironically, i think..
Mar 17th 2005
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                                              RE: ironically, i think..
Mar 18th 2005
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depends on how you qualify 'god'
Mar 15th 2005
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human beings can become more powerful than god
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
Mar 15th 2005
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that was just out right plain ignorant
Mar 15th 2005
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why,exactly?
Mar 17th 2005
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      RE: yes, i'd like to know too...
Mar 17th 2005
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           because we are mankind and he is Allah
Mar 17th 2005
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                Ameen.
Mar 17th 2005
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                that aint proof, that's islamic rhetoric....
Mar 19th 2005
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                     It's the TRUTH.
Mar 21st 2005
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                          It's NOT the TRUTH... it's YOUR opinion...
Mar 21st 2005
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                               It's the revelation of Allah. Period!
Mar 21st 2005
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                                    the point is that quotes from religious doctrine aren't proof of anythin...
Mar 21st 2005
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                                         yet you still make no point
Mar 21st 2005
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                                              i dont like 2 argue with religious ppl
Mar 22nd 2005
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                                                   I don't care for arguing either
Mar 22nd 2005
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Powerful enough to CREATE God
Mar 15th 2005
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where did this come from
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: where did this come from
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
Mar 16th 2005
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
Mar 16th 2005
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
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RE: are human beings more powerful than god?
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do u realize you rendered ur opinion null and void.
Mar 19th 2005
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      RE: was that to me? i'd like to respond..peace.
Mar 20th 2005
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           no....i pretty much mirror ur views
Mar 20th 2005
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                RE: cool, cuz..
Mar 21st 2005
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god cant be evil?
Mar 20th 2005
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RE: god cant be evil?
Mar 20th 2005
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      RE: god cant be evil?
Mar 22nd 2005
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