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29. "RE: Then I ask...."
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>Do you think African-American should totally
>forget what has went on
>since the first African was
>taken from his home to
>this very day where the
>after effects are still suffocating
>our people or do you
>think Afro-Americans should pick up
>and all move back to
>Africa?

I don't think that's a bad idea, but I don't think it's a very likely one either.

So, as a
>people, what do we do?

We are one people, but we're also many individuals. It's unrealistic to think that you or I could figure out a solution that universally applicable. I sincerely doubt that you could get just your own immediate family to follow your directions. Everybody has their own desires and needs.

> We infiltrate, we make
>them recognize that's what we
>do. We should create
>that bloc vote that Malcolm
>X was stressing so many
>years ago and take our
>twenty-five million plus votes and
>become a force to be
>reconed with and listened to
>and taken seriously.

I think there are about 35 million African-Americans in this country. At least 20 % of them pretty much oppose you outright (as they are either conservatives, who just want a place in the system, or radicals, who want to destroy the system). The remaining 80% are split up along those all-important "personal preference" lines I alluded to earlier. Those who choose to infilitrate usually find that they like the other side a hell of a lot. That's why spies defect and Black folks who start making a lot of money begin to vote Republican. Infiltration also means co-option.

We
>should create our own businesses
>and our own agendas as
>the Jews (maybe I should
>say Hebrews) do.
>If we're not part of
>the solution then we're part
>of the problem. Just
>saying fuck America ain't cuttin
>it no matter how realistic
>the thought is in many
>of our minds.

Maybe not for you, but it is for me. I'm not an American, so I'm sure we have different views on this. I'm just trying to make some money, get a decent education and be out.

>Don't think I don't understand where
>your coming from either, I
>just don't beleive letting America
>"make it" without some form
>of repercussions is the
>way. I think that
>it only lets the flood
>gate open (as it is)
>for more ish to happen.

I understand where you're coming from too. My issue with the reparations (or any form of payback) is that it puts our people in the position of being more dependant than they already are. Relying on a government (and a class of people) that has proven itself repeatedly to be treacherous is, IMO, slitting your own throat i.e. affirmative action). That's why I like all programs that decentralize power: charter schools, lower taxation, even states rights and jury nullification. You shouldn't be waiting for a cabal of white supremacists and their associates to give you anything, 'cause you'll be waiting a long-ass time.

  

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the big payback [View all] , qoolquest, Wed May-17-00 12:50 PM
 
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there's so much to ask for
May 17th 2000
1
there is no payback...
archangel_500years
May 17th 2000
2
RE: there is no payback...
May 17th 2000
4
RE: there is no payback...
May 17th 2000
9
Then I ask....
MahoganyBrown
May 19th 2000
21
     
RE: there is no payback...
May 17th 2000
6
PAYBACK????
May 17th 2000
3
You wanna lexus or justice????
Maat511
May 17th 2000
5
RE: the big payback
earthgrass
May 17th 2000
7
RE: the big payback
May 17th 2000
10
Payback??
Solange
May 17th 2000
8
RE: Payback??
May 18th 2000
11
Am I wrong or just upset?
MahoganyBrown
May 18th 2000
12
RE: Am I wrong or just upset?
MissIsis
May 18th 2000
15
      RE: Am I wrong or just upset?
May 19th 2000
18
           You asked.... and my answer is....
MahoganyBrown
May 19th 2000
19
first of all...........
May 18th 2000
13
Should we get something?....
MissIsis
May 18th 2000
14
      RE: Should we get something?....
MahoganyBrown
May 19th 2000
20
           RE: Should we get something?....
MissIsis
May 23rd 2000
47
RE: the big payback
May 18th 2000
16
RE: the big payback
SiberianSpecialForces
May 19th 2000
26
The New Zealand Situation
SiberianSpecialForces
May 19th 2000
27
Give us Sovereignty
May 18th 2000
17
YEAH!
May 19th 2000
23
RE: Give us Sovereignty
damatrix
May 19th 2000
25
      RE: Give us California!!!
May 22nd 2000
35
           RE: Give us California!!!
May 22nd 2000
36
                RE: Give us California!!!
MissIsis
May 23rd 2000
48
wont get one anyway n/m
Young_Isa
May 19th 2000
22
I aint goin' no-where
Maat511
May 19th 2000
24
RE: I aint goin' no-where
May 21st 2000
30
      RE: I aint goin' no-where
Maat511
May 22nd 2000
41
           RE: I aint goin' no-where
May 23rd 2000
49
                RE: I aint goin' no-where
Maat511
May 23rd 2000
50
                     RE: I aint goin' no-where
Maat511
May 23rd 2000
51
RE: the big payback
sthngrl
May 21st 2000
28
RE: the big payback
May 21st 2000
31
In reply to tinyteanie's post!
Marci
May 22nd 2000
34
Nothing would be enough
May 21st 2000
32
RE: the big payback
bigmik
May 21st 2000
33
RE: the big payback
May 22nd 2000
37
Re: the big payback
Quinn
May 22nd 2000
38
Excellent Essay on the topic
SoulChild
May 22nd 2000
39
RE: the big payback
Forlani
May 22nd 2000
40
RE: the big payback
Forlani
May 22nd 2000
42
RE: the big payback
May 22nd 2000
43
RE: the big payback
mlax
May 22nd 2000
44
i don't think we should get anything....
harmonee239
May 23rd 2000
45
RE: i don't think we should get anything....
MissIsis
May 23rd 2000
46
      Peace Queen.....
harmonee239
May 24th 2000
52
RE: the big payback
Kaorazen
May 24th 2000
53
ya'll done up and done it.
Mar 09th 2005
54

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