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64. "RE: I could care less.."
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>I think it's important to note that Hitler took power in
>1933, and it wasn't until 1935, the year that you refer to,
>that Hitler began his evil run. So any ideas that you have
>about America supporting Hitler during the holocaust, or
>even during his violations of human rights are wrong.

I really feel bad for you, as you cont-
inuaslly grasp at straws.

My man, the U.S. State Department
described Hitler as "a moderate who
stands, in 1937, between extremes
of right and left" and they said that
"Hitler must win or else the masses now
supported by the disillusioned middle
classes might turn to the left and that
would be a tragedy" (Chomsky, 2000).

Moreover, U.S. companies such as
Ford, GM, Standard Oil, Chase Nat-
ional Bank, and ITT all loved had
connections to his regime (Trading
With The Enemy: An Exposť of the
Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949,
by Charles Higham (Delacorte Press,
1983).

In the case of Mussolini, the State
Department hailed his "magnificent
achievements" in Ethiopia, and his
"astonishing contributions" to the
welfare of the masses in Italy itself.
FDR in 1939 wrote internally that the
efforts of the man he had called 'that
admirable Italian gentleman.'

>As far as the jews and the quotas, I know you aren't trying
>to put America's stance on immigration back then on equals
>with Hitlers views on the Jewish during his reign. The Quota
>Act wasn't a restiction on Jewish immigration alone, it was
>a resrtiction on immigration as a whole. Jews were just in
>the wrong place at the wrong time.

The Immigration Restriction Act
of 1924, was designed consciously
to halt the immigration of supposedly
"dysgenic" Italians and Jews, whose
numbers had mushroomed during the
period from 1900 to 1920.

Breckenridge Long, as head of the
State Department, greatly reduced
Jewish immigration to the US to
control possible spies and sabot-
eurs from coming to America. Long
was willing to use illegal means to
control the flow of Jewish refugees.
He ordered American consulates to
put every obstacle in the path of
immigrants trying to come to America.
Long centralized the final approval of
all visas to the State Department
office in America, making the process
much slower and increasing the paperwork
and time needed for approval.

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The Rand (Paul or Ayn) philosophy, putting private property rights at
the same level of human rights, equates the status of things with the
status of human beings. If property is considered equal

  

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the rabbit hole [View all] , Abbstrack, Sat Mar-15-03 04:58 PM
 
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Dollar versus the euro...
Mar 15th 2003
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the most interesting thing
Mar 15th 2003
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RE: the most interesting thing
Mar 15th 2003
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      After what hapened to theBot in Thailand, I don't
Mar 15th 2003
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      RE: After what hapened to theBot in Thailand, I don't
Mar 15th 2003
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      Thai Baht
Mar 15th 2003
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           Well, in my understanding- they tried to use the US dol
Mar 16th 2003
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      RE: After what hapened to theBot in Thailand, I don't
Mar 15th 2003
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           sure, here one place you can check my sources
Mar 16th 2003
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           RE: After what hapened to theBot in Thailand, I don't
Mar 16th 2003
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      RE: the most interesting thing
Mar 20th 2003
58
CHANGING TO THE EURO ISNT A BAD THING!!!!!!
Mar 22nd 2003
80
      straightening out
Mar 22nd 2003
81
excellent discussion
Mar 16th 2003
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The problem with that is that NZ, and Aussies will be n
Mar 16th 2003
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      you're right. we won't.
Mar 17th 2003
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           u cant leave
Mar 17th 2003
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                Let me get this straight...
Mar 17th 2003
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                if its going to go down
Mar 17th 2003
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                *sigh*
Mar 17th 2003
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RE: the rabbit hole
Mar 16th 2003
13
More like a worm hole............and a very shallow one
Mar 16th 2003
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RE: More like a worm hole............and a very shallow
Mar 17th 2003
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RE: More like a worm hole............and a very shallow
Mar 17th 2003
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?
Mar 17th 2003
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      RE: ?
Mar 17th 2003
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           RE: ?
Mar 17th 2003
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up.
Mar 19th 2003
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where is Expertise to defend Bush?
Mar 19th 2003
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i too wondered
Mar 19th 2003
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You know what's funny?
Mar 19th 2003
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The difference here shouldn't be suprising.
Mar 19th 2003
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pretty much
Mar 19th 2003
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      RE: pretty much
Mar 19th 2003
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           so how much did you have to search
Mar 19th 2003
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           Your skillz of debate are piss poor. You would have
Mar 19th 2003
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                I could care less..
Mar 19th 2003
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                     who does 'you' refer to?
Mar 19th 2003
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                     RE: who does 'you' refer to?
Mar 19th 2003
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                          RE: who does 'you' refer to?
Mar 19th 2003
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                          btw
Mar 19th 2003
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                               RE: btw
Mar 19th 2003
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                                    RE: btw
Mar 20th 2003
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                                    RE: btw
Mar 20th 2003
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                                         your reading skills are piss poor
Mar 20th 2003
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                                              RE: your reading skills are piss poor
Mar 20th 2003
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                                                   give it up man.
Mar 20th 2003
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                                    Tearing apart poor argumentation.
Mar 20th 2003
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                                         Hahaha
Mar 20th 2003
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                                         Yea, that's pretty funny...
Mar 20th 2003
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                                         RE: Tearing apart poor argumentation.
Mar 20th 2003
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                                              oh now i see what this is about...
Mar 20th 2003
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                                              You are dense.
Mar 20th 2003
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                          RE: who does 'you' refer to?
Mar 20th 2003
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                               RE: who does 'you' refer to?
Mar 20th 2003
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                                    RE: who does 'you' refer to?
Mar 20th 2003
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                                         RE: who does 'you' refer to?
Mar 20th 2003
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                                              RE: who does 'you' refer to?
Mar 20th 2003
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                                              hi seenic
Mar 21st 2003
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                                                   blah blah
Mar 21st 2003
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                                                        RE: blah blah
Mar 21st 2003
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                                                        RE: blah blah
Mar 21st 2003
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                                                        And nobody loves you
Mar 21st 2003
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                                                             RE: And nobody loves you
Mar 21st 2003
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                                                                  Worthless
Mar 22nd 2003
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                                                                       RE: Worthless
Mar 22nd 2003
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                     RE: I could care less..
Mar 19th 2003
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                     RE: I could care less..
Mar 19th 2003
40
                          God you should work as a speechwriter for Bush
Mar 21st 2003
75
                     Seenic is not about real dialogue. This person has a
Mar 20th 2003
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                     RE: I could care less..
Mar 20th 2003
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                          RE: I could care less..
Mar 20th 2003
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                                    Notice how he has no response to this.
Mar 22nd 2003
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                                         god you are on my nuts hard....
Mar 22nd 2003
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Correction
Mar 25th 2003
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RE: the rabbit hole
Mar 19th 2003
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To MODERATOR ............
Mar 20th 2003
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THE DANGER PART IS.....
Mar 20th 2003
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Yeah...here is some background info. Nonpartisan
Mar 21st 2003
66
these are very good!!!!
Mar 22nd 2003
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Here is a interesting paper that provides perspective (
Mar 21st 2003
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More sites to check out for background info:
Mar 21st 2003
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Comprehensive timeline! I had to repost this.
Mar 21st 2003
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I prefer it in the theme-split timelines
Mar 24th 2003
85
sure, but its great to see how it ALL meshes together.
Mar 24th 2003
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nevermind
Mar 24th 2003
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      exactly
Mar 25th 2003
90
up....too much knowledge here.
Mar 24th 2003
84
hahah
Mar 25th 2003
89
here ya'll go...
Mar 09th 2005
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