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32. "RE: K.orr... a better question may be"
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>what will heavy use of this
>type of medium do to
>our community

It depends on what it's used for. But at the very least, it can promote computer literacy and typing. Knowing those 2 basic things, brings folks back from the negative.

>Computers are a necessity for the
>most part
>But the internet is not yet
>a necessity for the average
>citizen

Personally, I think it's a lot like a cell phone. You don't need one, but when you have it, you realize how useful it is. (I"m cell phone free, though)

>I think that part of the
>resistance to computers (in general)
>and the internet specifically is
>the fact that they are
>such a solitary mediums and
>we are community/group minded people.

That might be plausible, but seemlingly black folks take to any technological invention within their means. PSX, Video games, Cellulars, TV's, DVD's, 2 way pagers,...IE, I see the net more like the next gadget and not a social experiment.

>Most people don't roam the
>net in groups, its an
>individual pursuit.

I would say that we as Af. Americans don't always operate in groups as a choice. But that's a diff convo for a different time.

That's why its
>a nest for freaks, geeks,
>& nerds...that's why even these
>loners sought out communities -
>some type of human interaction.

I'll go with that.

>Currently, the most popular aspects
>of the net involve actions
>cloaked in secrecy (the sex
>biz), community groups (chat/forums), or
>delivery of specific services (amazon
>books).

The killer app for the net is e-mail. Everything else comes in a distant 2nd.

>I disagree with the idea that
>being wired up is somehow
>tied in with the intellectual
>capacity of the enduser.

Me too. But it has been suggested by various folks in different places that I have been. Am I, online since 93, the anomaly, or the norm?

You
>don't have to be smart
>to be online -

ain't that the truth..

anymore
>than you have to be
>smart to drive a car
>or use a phone. Frankly,
>a lot of what happens
>in this medium is silly
>& frivilous - another type
>of television, another dumb talk
>show, another dirty magazine.

>From what I see the most
>important part of the internet
>is quicker access to some
>critical information, quicker ways to
>connect for groups of people
>to connect. But even these
>positives can be negatives if
>not done right.

I would rather have my folks have to deal with discretion over those matters, as opposed to not having the decision to make.

Coming back
>from a 4 day vacation,
>I had over 100 emails
>to sift thru, and out
>of the relatively handful that
>were important, I still needed
>to email back & forth
>and make a phone call
>& give verbal confirm.

Hopefully that will end on the business side of things.

The
>dot com businesses are in
>trouble now because too many
>of them weren't really necessary
>- it was all smoke
>& mirrors, same ole business,
>new clothes to dress it
>in.

Some of the dot.coms weren't even businesses.

>I think Black people aren't online
>as much because many of
>us don't feel we need
>to be ..we can get
>things done without it.

No doubt. But this is not like choosing between a ferrari and a bus, it's more like an old car from the 60's and one from 2K.

>To be honest. so could
>most people - that's why
>companies are limiting internet use.

It "kills" productivity? If I wasn't online, I'd be wasting time doing something else. (I actually wouldn't have this job were it not for the net).

>Then we have concerns about
>the government tracking our movements
>- a fear that's based
>on a very real foundation.

Tech solutions, and social hacks can stop that. But I feel you on it. But is this an actual concern of folks you know?

> And on top of
>it, the computer is a
>tool of a the solitary
>- it hasn't been developed
>to a point where it
>can be a gathering place
>- like the tv. though
>that's coming. I think
>we're more hesistant to adjust
>ourselves to that solitary mentality
>required to be a ...and
>maybe rightly so.

Interesting, I'm not sure I can go with the solitary vs community argument though

peace
k. orr

http://breddanansi.tumblr.com/

  

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Myth of the Digital Divide? [View all] , k_orr, Wed Jan-24-01 06:51 AM
 
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a side issue
Jan 24th 2001
1
telephone lines?
Jan 24th 2001
3
      yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
4
           RE: yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
5
           let's not get away
Jan 24th 2001
6
           RE: let's not get away
Jan 26th 2001
30
                agree w/ everything except:
Jan 26th 2001
34
                     it's not bad
Jan 26th 2001
35
           it's like having a typewriter
Jan 24th 2001
7
                RE: it's like having a typewriter
Ruslanchik
Jan 24th 2001
8
           a note:
Jan 24th 2001
11
                Lets compare apples to apples
Jan 25th 2001
17
                     um....
Jan 25th 2001
19
                          RE: um....
Jan 25th 2001
22
                               I would bet $$$...
Jan 25th 2001
23
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Jan 24th 2001
2
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sierra
Jan 24th 2001
9
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sporatic
Jan 24th 2001
10
      What needs are unmet in the typical black home?
Jan 25th 2001
13
           What for?
Jan 25th 2001
28
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
31
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
33
                     Do we have more access?
Jan 26th 2001
36
                          RE: Do we have more access?
Jan 26th 2001
40
The Digital Experiment
Jan 24th 2001
12
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
14
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
15
Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
16
RE: Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
18
      honestly...
Jan 25th 2001
20
a few thoughts...
Jan 25th 2001
21
Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
24
RE: Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
25
K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 25th 2001
26
will internet access be just another way
Jan 25th 2001
27
RE: will internet access be just another way
Jan 26th 2001
29
      Then how will it differ from tv?
Jan 26th 2001
37
           Dj screw
Jan 26th 2001
38
      RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
39
           RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
41
It's just a tool!
Jan 26th 2001
42
This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
43
      RE: This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
44
education
Jan 29th 2001
45
Revisiting this question in 2005...I think there is a divide.
Mar 09th 2005
46
Technology is just a tool
Mar 10th 2005
53
      lol 4yrs later, how's the center doing?
Mar 11th 2005
54
           I was curious too.
Mar 12th 2005
55
           It's still there, still open
Mar 12th 2005
56
Anti-intellectualism?
Mar 10th 2005
47
this post is 4 years old
Mar 10th 2005
48
      Hooooly shit.
Mar 10th 2005
51
      Yeah...I though about that
Mar 10th 2005
52
What's particularly intellectual about being online?
Mar 10th 2005
49
WHOAH...there are 2 Nahymsa's at this site
Mar 10th 2005
50

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