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36. "Do we have more access?"
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Or just a different method of getting at the same old material
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>That is how big business is using that. But there are parts of >the net that are sufficiently free of that type of top down
>control (usenet, irc, free servers..).

True but at some level, big business or government still plays a role in providing the ability to use those services.

>>Having access to the internet is not that different than >having access to a mall bookstore or direct tv.
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>The net is more than that.

In what way? It can be more than those things in some areas but it also can be LESS.

>Its not just about getting online, its about what's there when >you finally get on. Its about who controls the content, who
>>controls the search engines, who controls the tolls for the
>>highway, who sets the rules & regulates the highway, etc.
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>In it's current form you can avoid the control. How savvy you >have to be to do this, is another question. - usenet - no controls content.

I'm taking it a little further than that, I think. Its not about free search engines or newsgroups...its about who controls those groups, who controls the the fiber, who controls IP registration, the technical structures required to have internet access, the monitoring of that access, the laws controlling ways in which we can use web & the enforcement of them.

Its also about awareness....as more & more people gain access & more & more people develop a web presence, the quantity of the information limits individual visibility. The information can be there but whats the point if no one knows. You still are tied to the standard principles of marketing & promotion - you just have a larger audience. Yes, we'll have faster & more access to information but faster & more are only relative to those running along side us. Their capacity to put their information out to an even larger group will increase too.

>I have a feeling we will see that end in the next 10 years.

Yes, not to mention, we can & some are being monitored today.

>No doubt, but access to information is a far better weapon
>than we've had before.

Yes, if we can find it, trust it, and control it. There isn't a plan in place for that.



  

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Myth of the Digital Divide? [View all] , k_orr, Wed Jan-24-01 06:51 AM
 
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a side issue
Jan 24th 2001
1
telephone lines?
Jan 24th 2001
3
      yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
4
           RE: yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
5
           let's not get away
Jan 24th 2001
6
           RE: let's not get away
Jan 26th 2001
30
                agree w/ everything except:
Jan 26th 2001
34
                     it's not bad
Jan 26th 2001
35
           it's like having a typewriter
Jan 24th 2001
7
                RE: it's like having a typewriter
Ruslanchik
Jan 24th 2001
8
           a note:
Jan 24th 2001
11
                Lets compare apples to apples
Jan 25th 2001
17
                     um....
Jan 25th 2001
19
                          RE: um....
Jan 25th 2001
22
                               I would bet $$$...
Jan 25th 2001
23
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Jan 24th 2001
2
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sierra
Jan 24th 2001
9
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sporatic
Jan 24th 2001
10
      What needs are unmet in the typical black home?
Jan 25th 2001
13
           What for?
Jan 25th 2001
28
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
31
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
33
                    
                          RE: Do we have more access?
Jan 26th 2001
40
The Digital Experiment
Jan 24th 2001
12
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
14
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
15
Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
16
RE: Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
18
      honestly...
Jan 25th 2001
20
a few thoughts...
Jan 25th 2001
21
Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
24
RE: Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
25
K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 25th 2001
26
will internet access be just another way
Jan 25th 2001
27
RE: will internet access be just another way
Jan 26th 2001
29
      Then how will it differ from tv?
Jan 26th 2001
37
           Dj screw
Jan 26th 2001
38
RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
32
      RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
39
           RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
41
It's just a tool!
Jan 26th 2001
42
This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
43
      RE: This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
44
education
Jan 29th 2001
45
Revisiting this question in 2005...I think there is a divide.
Mar 09th 2005
46
Technology is just a tool
Mar 10th 2005
53
      lol 4yrs later, how's the center doing?
Mar 11th 2005
54
           I was curious too.
Mar 12th 2005
55
           It's still there, still open
Mar 12th 2005
56
Anti-intellectualism?
Mar 10th 2005
47
this post is 4 years old
Mar 10th 2005
48
      Hooooly shit.
Mar 10th 2005
51
      Yeah...I though about that
Mar 10th 2005
52
What's particularly intellectual about being online?
Mar 10th 2005
49
WHOAH...there are 2 Nahymsa's at this site
Mar 10th 2005
50

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