both of us know...dialup is a$$ (56K?) in terms of usability (and getting worse)i was speaking more of the access to higher (and slowly becoming standard) speedsyour point is valid though (which is why i made the comment in the first place)if you got a tv (which most do) most can at least spring for webtvit's all about priority.the same way some parents will buy their kids (or themselves) brand new $150 sneakers but not have encyclopedias or a dictionary in the houseand your point about intimidation IS valid. many assume that using a computer/getting on line is harder than it really is.