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KoalaLove

Wed May-31-00 09:09 AM

  
49. "RE: thats blatant thievery"
In response to In response to 46


          

>For you to say that observing
>the genius of one culture
>than making it your own
>and not giving recognition, but
>pretending as if you have
>unearthed these jewels within your
>own culture... that's just plain
>and blatant theft!!!

sure but you're beholden to cite a specific example where this took place- what about roman and egyptian architectiure, warfare, plumbing... you're leaving a whole lot out and generalizing the rest.

>And once again you are correct
>I am making generalizations so
>I will be a little
>more specific
>
>Much of the
>Art

pottery, jewelry, painting, sculpture? you're not being very specific at all. dont even try to say sculpture cuz romans and greeks had a very different approach to portraiture and life representation than egyptians- who used symbol and form in their artistic portrayals. Was the bust of Pallas stolen from Egyptian art trends- certainly not.

>Language

Romance languages have no root in Egyptian languages- I dont see where you got this from. Maybe literature or philosophy but not the language itself. are you saying Europeans couldnt talk before they went to Egypt- preposterous.

>Symbolism

I dont remember much symbolism in European art- in any case symbolism is far too vague a concept to contribute it to one culture. Native americans used symbolism too it doesnt mean that got it from Egypt- rather symbolism is a basic form of communicating among humans.

>Architecture

see here is where your accusation of theft is off base. Who invented the wheel?- if the Egyptians where the first to use it (although you cant prove that) then is every subsequent user of teh wheel a theif? Pillars? Bricks? Architecture developped from the need of humankind to have shelter- just because i build my house with bricks doesnt mean I stole the technology from anybody- it only means that since this is a pretty effective way of building a dwelling this is probably the way i ought to go. Not to mention Romans and Greeks made several innovations on architecture as did Asian people. Where Europeans homeless before tehy went to Egypt- no but when they got there they got better ideas as to how to build their homes... did they steal the ideas- no they just wanted roofs. give them a break- damn.

>Philosophy
>Civilization structure
>Government structure

Sorry charlie- I cant name one European civilization that was based on the premise that their leader was a god. Egyptian government was not just a theocracy it was an oligarchy. European governments were largely secular.

>Mythology

Again no- Greek and Roman mythology steemed mostly from Norse religions- they by and large didnt adopt Egyptian gods because Egyptian gods supposedly had earthly vessels- them being teh Pharoah and his entourage.

>Among other things were all apart
>of the stolen legacy
>
>It is also true that much
>of what they stole was
>distorted and misconstrued
>But still there were many things
>that stood out and were
>obviously taken from Africa withOUT
>any recognition given

In all your statements you have yet to make one concrete statement as to a tradition or trait that was stolen from Egypt. If most of the things that Europeans cherished were stolen from Africa- pleas name one thing specifically.

again there is a difference between influence and theft. the misrepresentation of influence is indeed a miscarriage of information but still does not amount to theivery. In fact you said this yourself "the ways and rituals (although still sacred) did have traces of the ways of many outsiders" of the latter days of the Egyptians so by your own premise you would consider the Egyptians thieves as well- which is it gonna be?

K

  

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Opening the Tombs [View all] , Aviance, Tue May-23-00 07:46 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Im afraid so
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
1
Hold up though
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
2
RE: Hold up though
May 23rd 2000
9
More like
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
12
Yep, final answer
May 23rd 2000
20
exactly,
May 24th 2000
34
first of all
May 30th 2000
35
      further more
May 30th 2000
36
           Answers
KoalaLove
May 30th 2000
37
                Furthermore
KoalaLove
May 30th 2000
38
                     RE: Furthermore
May 30th 2000
39
                     RE: Furthermore
KoalaLove
May 31st 2000
41
                     yes
May 30th 2000
40
                          RE: yes
KoalaLove
May 31st 2000
42
                          Another question
KoalaLove
May 31st 2000
43
                               RE: Another question
May 31st 2000
44
                                    RE: Another question
KoalaLove
May 31st 2000
45
                                         thats blatant thievery
May 31st 2000
46
                                              and maybe
May 31st 2000
47
                                              but thats where you're wrong
KoalaLove
May 31st 2000
48
                                                   RE: but thats where you're wrong
May 31st 2000
50
                                                        RE: but thats where you're wrong
KoalaLove
May 31st 2000
51
                                                             RE: but thats where you're wrong
May 31st 2000
53
                                                                  well in this particular instance
May 31st 2000
54
                                                                  Romans not Russians my bad n/m
May 31st 2000
55
                                                                       Thats better
KoalaLove
Jun 01st 2000
57
                                                                  RE: but thats where you're wrong
KoalaLove
Jun 01st 2000
56
                                             
                                                   RE: thats blatant thievery
May 31st 2000
52
                                                        coincidence
KoalaLove
Jun 01st 2000
58
                                                        but really
Jun 01st 2000
59
                                                             My only issue
KoalaLove
Jun 01st 2000
60
                                                                  thats understandable
Jun 01st 2000
61
Just for grins...
May 23rd 2000
3
      Pardon me
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
4
      Touche' (n/m)
May 23rd 2000
5
      No dispute-
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
8
           RE: No dispute-
May 23rd 2000
16
                Ok
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
19
      oh great furry one
May 23rd 2000
15
           Extrapolation
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
18
                Koala is E=Mc2 of Okayplayer
May 23rd 2000
21
      That is also a valid point
May 23rd 2000
10
           america
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
13
only if it's tastefully done...
May 23rd 2000
6
Fiasco!?
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
7
      So, It's all just a big scam? n/m
May 23rd 2000
11
           Everything is a scam
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
14
           Speaking of scams
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
17
                I just wish...
May 23rd 2000
22
                     RE: I just wish...
May 23rd 2000
23
                     Y'all need to quit fronting
KoalaLove
May 23rd 2000
24
                     RE: Animals are attacking, we have to kill them!
damatrix
May 23rd 2000
25
America is capitalistic....
SheRise
May 23rd 2000
26
Damn I missed it
KoalaLove
May 24th 2000
27
RE: Damn I missed it
May 24th 2000
28
RE: Damn I missed it
velodragon
May 24th 2000
29
      Now THAT....
May 24th 2000
31
      **Falling outta my chair in laughter**
May 24th 2000
32
Maybe not aliens but........
MrC
May 24th 2000
30
      Very interesting indeed n/m
May 24th 2000
33

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