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murph25
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I'll just respond to the second part of your post, because it seems more relevant. As an American citizen, my feeling is that whenever we attempt to force major social changes in a foreign country, we're going to face some serious roadblocks. The most obvious is HOW can we effectively make this kind of change happen? Pakistan and Afghanistan are sovereign nations, and the US government simply has no authority to dictate to them what laws they can or cannot pass. We can use economic pressure, the threat of force, or other measures to try to coerce these countries into changing their laws, but this doesn't always work out too well (just look at our ongoing debacle in Iraq). If we were to succeed in forcing a country like Pakistan to change their laws, the US plays into the role of being imperialists who are disrespectful of Islamic beliefs, and would continue to make enemies in the region. Besides, the US has made some pretty poor decisions in their foreign policy the past few years and usually do so in the name of fighting terrorism or defending the rights of individuals. A lot of times economic interests and political concerns are the real underlying causes of our involvement. It isn't necessarily credible for the US to claim we are acting out of good will, even if it is justified. Now, a multinational effort to police Human Rights on a worldwide scale may make sense philosophically, but this doesn't seem viable right now either. The U.N. appears to be controlled by a handful of powerful nations, and doesn't necessarily have a lot of power at that. The US in particular has really abused their role with the organization. I'd love if we could go in and make the situation for women in Pakistan and Afghanistan better, but international politics are never that easy. A sort of grassroots raising of awareness about issues like these that are going on in foreign countries seems valuable. It helps if internationally, people at least KNOW when serious human rights violations are taking place somewhere in the world. When it comes to really getting in there and solving these kind of pervasive social issues, though, I think people need to work from within the country. I know the US has plenty of domestic issues where we as citizens of this country really can make an impact. Race is just one of those issues. When I read these posts, I was reminded of that Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy song - "water piston man, full of ammunition, putting out fires on a worldwide mission, but did you ever think to stop and squirt the flowers in your own backyard?"

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murph

peace,
murph

  

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It's not just white people who like to kill [View all] , mke, Thu Jun-08-00 10:52 AM
 
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Ive seen footage
KoalaLove
Jun 08th 2000
1
RE: Ive seen footage
Jun 08th 2000
2
      hold up
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
9
           RE: hold up
Jun 10th 2000
11
That mess (honor killing)...
Jun 08th 2000
3
Religions are all fucked up.
Shaquan
Jun 08th 2000
4
RE: It's not just white people who like to kill
Jun 08th 2000
5
it's easy to dismiss
ILLY9
Jun 08th 2000
6
RE: it's easy to dismiss
Jun 09th 2000
10
      RE: it's easy to dismiss
Jun 10th 2000
13
RE: It's not just white people who like to kill
Jun 08th 2000
7
      nah
ILLY9
Jun 08th 2000
8
           RE: nah
Jun 10th 2000
12
RE: domestic vs. international issues
Jun 12th 2000
15
the queen
Jun 12th 2000
16
MKE! Where have u been!
Jun 12th 2000
17

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