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mke
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11. "RE: hold up"
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>My opinion doesnt sacrifice any "incentive
>for a country to even
>attempt to appear exemplary and
>dimish its crimes" it recognizes
>that each country should be
>accountable to its own crimes
>and actions as opposed to
>judging somebody elses.
>
>K

Good points, but taking care of your own backyard effectively means doing nothing. It means, because France, the USA or Ghana are not perfect, they can't say anything about, for example, Stalinian dictatorship. It means the Holocaust would not have been stopped (because the US had done worse). Actually, this is kind of the case today: look at Pinochet.

Your logic means people oppressed by, say, an honour-killing system should expect no aid or support from anywhere, because nowhere is the female condition perfect. That seems to me a dangerous route to take.

And remember that not only states make judgements on other states. Amnesty International is an example of a non-state doing the same thing.

And how far do you take the "take care of your back-yard" logic? To the individual level, where anyone can say: "That judge has no right over me, he ain't perfect"?

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It's not just white people who like to kill [View all] , mke, Thu Jun-08-00 10:52 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Ive seen footage
KoalaLove
Jun 08th 2000
1
RE: Ive seen footage
Jun 08th 2000
2
      hold up
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
9
          
That mess (honor killing)...
Jun 08th 2000
3
Religions are all fucked up.
Shaquan
Jun 08th 2000
4
RE: It's not just white people who like to kill
Jun 08th 2000
5
it's easy to dismiss
ILLY9
Jun 08th 2000
6
RE: it's easy to dismiss
Jun 09th 2000
10
      RE: it's easy to dismiss
Jun 10th 2000
13
RE: It's not just white people who like to kill
Jun 08th 2000
7
      nah
ILLY9
Jun 08th 2000
8
           RE: nah
Jun 10th 2000
12
domestic vs. international issues
Jun 12th 2000
14
RE: domestic vs. international issues
Jun 12th 2000
15
the queen
Jun 12th 2000
16
MKE! Where have u been!
Jun 12th 2000
17

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