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nushooz
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71. "Let's try this"
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>but there're not always simple choices
>and you know this.
>Rick as Koala mentioned was
>not given the option of
>getting a job or selling
>crack. He was told to
>SELL crack for the government
>(who works for YOU) or
>GO TO JAIL. Where is
>the job option there?
There were choices to be made prior to that point.

>Also, you're implying that everyone's opportunities
>for employment are the same.
> That is not true,
>not only are the opportunities
>different but so is pay
>for the same work.
So becoming a felon is the answer?

It
>is a fact that if
>everyone in America were to
>be qualified there still wouldnt
>be enough legal jobs that
>provide a living wage...that is
>a fact.
Reference please.

This system is
>dependant on the exploitation of
>the poor for survival. Yet
>you seem to be of
>the impression that working for
>a "legit" company makes you
>somehow innocent. That's selective responsibility
>at best.
At lease there's responsibility. It seems you want me to conceed that Rick is not responsible in any way for his lot.

As Koala said,
>you have a choice not
>to pay for a corrupt
>government but you do so
>so you won't go to
>jail for the likes of
>Rick.
Tell me, is there on line access from jail? I like the amount of freedom that I have!


>ummm...clearly racial profiling which has been
>proven shows that the police
>arbitrarily decide to enforce the
>law. That is wrong.
Completely Undisputed by Me. True True True

Some
>of the same people &
>companies you work for &
>with are the benefits of
>this double standard.
How is that?

>LIE, why do you keep putting
>in a false choice. The
>choice presented by the CIA
>was SELL CRACK FOR THE
>GOVERNMENT OR GO TO JAIL!
TRUTH! Did you decide to quit your job today and go sell drugs? Rick's only choices in life were not made in that jail cell on that day. TRUTH!

>>I haven't condemed Rick. But I can condemn drug
>>dealing, love Rick and still go to Heaven.
>
>But you pay money (taxes) to
>support the drug dealers (the
>government) so what does that
>make you? The government
>sells drugs, why don't you
>take away you're part in
>their funding?
Stop paying taxes? Are you crazy? And go to
jail like Rick? What is that going to solve?

>Are you familar with American history?
>Or the Civil Rights movement,
>imagine if they took that
>attitude.
This parrallel is an atrocity! I am SO familiar with the Civil Rights Movement that I am floored by you comparing going to jail for the right to vote with going to jail for selling drugs or even tax evasion.

The American Revolutionaries
>refused to pay taxes and
>took the chance at going
>to jail for what was
>right. Do you lack the
>courage to back your convictions
>with real action?
I don't think you are in a position to "judge" (isn't that what this debate is about - from your stand point? or was it Koala's?) my level of courage or committment.

And since you brought up history, the American Revolutionary War was about taxation without REPRESENTATION - and for wherever and whatever it is at this point, YOU have the opportunity or choice (boy, there's a good word) to be a participant in your representation. And the war was a concerted effort. Find me some more people that have such an effort for ummmm, what should I say....TAX EVASION. At that time I will examine it and then CHOOSE if I want to participate.

Most
>of us do, that's why
>talk is cheap. If
>all American citizens were to
>renige on paying taxes that
>would be one of the
>most effective ways to enforce
>our will on the government.
Why don't you get the ball rolling. Email me from Federal Prison. OK?

>Living by your principles requires
>real sacrifice...not just lip service.
And I have sacrificed drug dealing and jail time for my principles.

NuShooz
I,I, I Can't Wait!

Live from the Shoe Sto, the Mall and NOW the courtroom


I, I, I Can't Wait?
U've waited long enuff!

  

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N-I-G-G-E-R (a case study) [View all] , DivineVersatile, Thu Jun-08-00 11:15 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
tight post
Jun 08th 2000
1
Well, I'll comment
Shaquan
Jun 08th 2000
2
RE: Well, I'll comment 2
ILLY9
Jun 08th 2000
3
I simply disagree
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
4
Koala, while you have a point...
Jun 09th 2000
16
      RE: Koala, while you have a point...
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
17
           But the main reason for using "black" was
Jun 09th 2000
23
           Not necessarily true
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
30
                I have studied the Black power movement
Jun 12th 2000
33
                     right but...
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
34
                          but you get the point Koala....why the argument?
Jun 12th 2000
36
                               RE: but you get the point Koala....why the argument?
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
38
                                    skin color is at the heart of the term "black"
Jun 12th 2000
43
                                         RE: skin color is at the heart of the term
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
44
           Black was/is a default term...
Jun 11th 2000
26
                RE: Black was/is a default term...
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
31
I think K is right
Jun 09th 2000
5
only people can empower a word....
Jun 09th 2000
6
Thats some good SHIT!
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
7
      knew i was invitin' some shitty replies.....
Jun 09th 2000
8
           which stereotypes
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
9
                RE: which stereotypes
Jun 09th 2000
10
                     RE: which stereotypes
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
11
                          RE: which stereotypes
Shaquan
Jun 09th 2000
12
An e-mail I got
Jun 09th 2000
13
I am so lovin that webpage....
Jun 09th 2000
14
i saw that one...
Jun 09th 2000
15
thanks for sharing!
Jun 09th 2000
19
I just watched the animated short.
Jun 09th 2000
18
word
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
20
Koala, please "we" are using the phrase just like white people
Jun 09th 2000
22
whew!
Jun 12th 2000
37
      But where do you draw the line?
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
40
      I think WE NEED a line
Jun 12th 2000
45
           RE: I think WE NEED a line
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
46
                RE: I think WE NEED a line
Jun 12th 2000
47
                     RE: I think WE NEED a line
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
48
                     oh yeah
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
49
                          Thanks, K!
Jun 13th 2000
50
      its something to consider
Jun 13th 2000
53
why is it.......?
Jun 09th 2000
24
RE: why is it.......?
Jun 11th 2000
25
Dont you see!
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
32
K, talk with me
Jun 12th 2000
35
      RE: K, talk with me
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
39
      ma...can we afford a "nigga" like you?
Jun 13th 2000
52
           RE: ma...can we afford a
Jun 13th 2000
54
                so if I called you a nigga, its not a problem
Jun 13th 2000
55
                     Who said that??
KoalaLove
Jun 13th 2000
56
                     RE: so if I called you a nigga, its not a problem
Jun 13th 2000
57
                          RE: so if I called you a nigga, its not a problem
KoalaLove
Jun 13th 2000
58
                               K, if that's the ONLY problem you see
Jun 13th 2000
59
                                    RE: K, if that's the ONLY problem you see
KoalaLove
Jun 13th 2000
60
                                         RE: K, if that's the ONLY problem you see
Jun 13th 2000
61
                                              RE: K, if that's the ONLY problem you see
KoalaLove
Jun 13th 2000
62
                                                   NuShooz and Koala...sittin in a tree....
Jun 13th 2000
63
                                                        Back Down?
Jun 14th 2000
65
Adolph's character was supposed to be offensive
Jun 09th 2000
21
Perception
Jun 11th 2000
27
I'll take it from the hip hop view..
Jun 11th 2000
28
Re:"Dead the word"
Jun 11th 2000
29
RE: N-I-G-G-E-R (a case study)
Maqoma
Jun 12th 2000
41
just wanted to say...
Jun 12th 2000
42
u're mouth shut?
Jun 13th 2000
51
Hey, K! I'm down here...
Jun 14th 2000
64
Back in the trenches
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
66
Lemme try this
Jun 14th 2000
69
      RE: Lemme try this
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
70
           MY issue vs YOURS
Jun 14th 2000
73
                RE: MY issue vs YOURS
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
76
                Besides...
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
77
                     Word...how is a drug dealer different than the US Government?
Jun 15th 2000
86
                          Just goes to show ya
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
87
                          KoalaLove and Nahymsa....
Phraktal
Jun 15th 2000
88
ma...you are deliberately missing the point.
Jun 14th 2000
67
      Hold Up
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
68
     
           What would you have done Shooz?
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
72
           RE: What would you have done Shooz?
Jun 14th 2000
74
                RE: What would you have done Shooz?
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
75
                     RE: What would you have done Shooz?
Jun 14th 2000
78
                          RE: What would you have done Shooz?
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
79
                          RE: What would you have done Shooz?
Jun 15th 2000
89
                               Yuck
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
91
                          are you equating the government with a religious institution
Jun 15th 2000
81
                               RE: are you equating the government with a religious institution
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
82
                               She knows that the government sold drugs for arms with Iran Contra
Jun 15th 2000
84
                                    Dammit Nah
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
85
                               RE: are you equating the government with a religious institution
Jun 15th 2000
90
                                    But wait
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
92
                                    K (and your band of happy people)
Jun 15th 2000
93
                                         nobody HAS to pay taxes..that is a fact
Jun 15th 2000
95
                                    umm..what the point of an example
Jun 15th 2000
94
           RE: Let's try this
Jun 15th 2000
83
Wow, tax evasion is related to "nigger"
Wise_7
Jun 14th 2000
80
ironic....
nakeisha
Jun 15th 2000
96
someone beat me to the webpage...
nakeisha
Jun 15th 2000
97

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