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nushooz
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69. "Lemme try this"
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Long time ago, in a place familiar to us all, Freeway Rick was posed with the option of going to school, working at Burger King, Committing suicide, Selling drugs, Being a Dog Catcher, etc. From all those wonderful routes, he choose to sell crack.

Selling crack wasn't just a decision that he made in that jail cell. He made it long before then. And as a consequence, he ended up having to make another decision: Sell some more crack or be in jail.

This is my point. Ya dig? Do you understand THIS point?

>>Getting a job or selling crack
>>is EVERYONE's choice.
>
>Righte but getting a job is
>not always a readily available
>option and those circumstances it
>is quite often that selling
>crack is a more viable
>opportunity.

(A) I can not buy the idea that your only means of providing for your self is selling drugs. I will agree with you that Rick didn't have my family directing him to college or cheering on his accomplishments as a child or his mother as his best friend. But he did have a choice. And to say that selling crack is viable option, is a slap in the face to those folks your freind(nayhma, sorry) make reference to in the Civil Rights Movement.

The KEY item of
>that is to realize who
>provides those opportunities.
So, were the choices you made in life completely at the whim or the allowance of this system that you talk about?

>Now Rick is a known Felon
>and at the time of
>this turning point in his
>life he had no address.
>On those premises alone the
>"get a job" option is
>not all that reasonable.
>
>now the KEY is to understand
>who made it that way-
>was it Rick?
Yes. Rick was not born a known felon. See (A)
Are you relenquishing the responsibility of all of YOUR choices to those who you say "made it that way"?

>It depends on where you are-
>but you cant ascribe that
>percpetion throughout the land. 150
>cases pending in LA on
>the basis of systematic and
>wrongful judication- 150 CASES. Demonstrating
>the idea that in some
>sections of this country people
>are arbitraily picked to go
>to ail- its called racial
>profiling.
I won't argue that racial profiling doesn't exist. I know that it does. But there are at least a billion other people in this country that aren't incarcerated. I can count as least 2 right here. But let me ask you this: Do you live your life at the threat of racial profiling, ging to work(or school or wherever) thinking that the police are going to kick the door down and take you to jail because you fit some profile? Or do you go about your business each day taking for granted the security of your "right-ness"?

>the KEY is still the same-
>if this is how it
>is- then who is making
>it that way. not Rick.
See (A)

>You dont know what opportunities Rick
>had. If Im not mistaked
>he was an abandoned crack
>baby that was shuffled from
>foster care for his adolescent
>years and served his juvenile
>years in detention. Even if
>that aint Rick's exact biography
>that is a biography that
>is shared by many people.
And one of those people could be me. You don't know either. Is that an excuse?
>
>Think about it- predisposed to adiction
>from birth subjected to underprivliged
>communities and poverty throughout your
>life; whatever menial job you
>can find probably wont allow
>you to afford living much
>less leisure as such-
I ain buying that either. I know people from my hometown who raised 5 children and supported a wife off of practically nothing. I know a woman that works at Kmart making 6.50 an hour who pays her bills & barely eats. But she hasn't made the choice to sell crack or anything else.
Am I to beleive that Rick hold NO responsibility for his situation?

your
>opportunity is not the same
>as what is to be
>expected for the american system
>and the american system although
>a major burden on such
>lifestyles offers very little to
>resolve the situation.
??????

>
>What Im telling you is that
>both those jobs are provided
>by the US government and
>while you condemn Rick for
>making his choice you revel
>in the fact that youve
>been lucky enough to follow
>along the "conscienable" path
I CHOOSE this path. Others were available. But I choose THIS one. "A road diverged....I choose the one....."


as
>provided by the exact same
>beast thats been dogging our
>people (and Rick) since day
>one- the same beast that
>walked in on Rick's jail
>cell and gave him the
>choice to sell crack.
See (A)

>I dont know where you live
>but here in america the
>government imports drugs into our
>streets
I don't dispute that

and then applies unconscienable
>pressure on our people to
>sell it amongst ourselves.
I dispute this. See (A)

the
>only way to avoid it
>is to find a good
>paying job in the mastas
>house and then pay him
>taxes so he can keep
>feeding our people poison then
>we can cast judgement and
>doubt on those po lil
>field niggas out there that
>dont know no better cuz
>that makes us feel better
>cuz we know damn well
>that we're living in the
>same shackles.
It's about choices.

>I m not here to give
>you an alternative to paying
>taxes- you keep trying to
>take it there.
Because YOU keep bringing it up.

Im challenging
>your condemnation of your people.
Once again, I dislike/abhore/hate drug DEALING (Verb); I can still love/like/pray for THE DEALER (Noun)

>If you pay your taxes
>like a good citizen then
>your moral standing is besmirched
>by the conduct of th
>government you support.
>
>The government obligates you to pay
>your taxes
>The government obligates others to sell
>drugs
See (A)

>You cant blame the dealers for
>what theyve been obligated to
>do because you've absolved yourself
>from the guilt of your
>own obligations- unless you're willing
>to admit that its a
>blatant double standard.
See (A)

NuShooz
I,I, I Can't Wait!

Live from the Shoe Sto, the Mall and NOW the courtroom


I, I, I Can't Wait?
U've waited long enuff!

  

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N-I-G-G-E-R (a case study) [View all] , DivineVersatile, Thu Jun-08-00 11:15 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
tight post
Jun 08th 2000
1
Well, I'll comment
Shaquan
Jun 08th 2000
2
RE: Well, I'll comment 2
ILLY9
Jun 08th 2000
3
I simply disagree
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
4
Koala, while you have a point...
Jun 09th 2000
16
      RE: Koala, while you have a point...
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
17
           But the main reason for using "black" was
Jun 09th 2000
23
           Not necessarily true
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
30
                I have studied the Black power movement
Jun 12th 2000
33
                     right but...
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
34
                          but you get the point Koala....why the argument?
Jun 12th 2000
36
                               RE: but you get the point Koala....why the argument?
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
38
                                    skin color is at the heart of the term "black"
Jun 12th 2000
43
                                         RE: skin color is at the heart of the term
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
44
           Black was/is a default term...
Jun 11th 2000
26
                RE: Black was/is a default term...
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
31
I think K is right
Jun 09th 2000
5
only people can empower a word....
Jun 09th 2000
6
Thats some good SHIT!
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
7
      knew i was invitin' some shitty replies.....
Jun 09th 2000
8
           which stereotypes
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
9
                RE: which stereotypes
Jun 09th 2000
10
                     RE: which stereotypes
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
11
                          RE: which stereotypes
Shaquan
Jun 09th 2000
12
An e-mail I got
Jun 09th 2000
13
I am so lovin that webpage....
Jun 09th 2000
14
i saw that one...
Jun 09th 2000
15
thanks for sharing!
Jun 09th 2000
19
I just watched the animated short.
Jun 09th 2000
18
word
KoalaLove
Jun 09th 2000
20
Koala, please "we" are using the phrase just like white people
Jun 09th 2000
22
whew!
Jun 12th 2000
37
      But where do you draw the line?
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
40
      I think WE NEED a line
Jun 12th 2000
45
           RE: I think WE NEED a line
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
46
                RE: I think WE NEED a line
Jun 12th 2000
47
                     RE: I think WE NEED a line
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
48
                     oh yeah
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
49
                          Thanks, K!
Jun 13th 2000
50
      its something to consider
Jun 13th 2000
53
why is it.......?
Jun 09th 2000
24
RE: why is it.......?
Jun 11th 2000
25
Dont you see!
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
32
K, talk with me
Jun 12th 2000
35
      RE: K, talk with me
KoalaLove
Jun 12th 2000
39
      ma...can we afford a "nigga" like you?
Jun 13th 2000
52
           RE: ma...can we afford a
Jun 13th 2000
54
                so if I called you a nigga, its not a problem
Jun 13th 2000
55
                     Who said that??
KoalaLove
Jun 13th 2000
56
                     RE: so if I called you a nigga, its not a problem
Jun 13th 2000
57
                          RE: so if I called you a nigga, its not a problem
KoalaLove
Jun 13th 2000
58
                               K, if that's the ONLY problem you see
Jun 13th 2000
59
                                    RE: K, if that's the ONLY problem you see
KoalaLove
Jun 13th 2000
60
                                         RE: K, if that's the ONLY problem you see
Jun 13th 2000
61
                                              RE: K, if that's the ONLY problem you see
KoalaLove
Jun 13th 2000
62
                                                   NuShooz and Koala...sittin in a tree....
Jun 13th 2000
63
                                                        Back Down?
Jun 14th 2000
65
Adolph's character was supposed to be offensive
Jun 09th 2000
21
Perception
Jun 11th 2000
27
I'll take it from the hip hop view..
Jun 11th 2000
28
Re:"Dead the word"
Jun 11th 2000
29
RE: N-I-G-G-E-R (a case study)
Maqoma
Jun 12th 2000
41
just wanted to say...
Jun 12th 2000
42
u're mouth shut?
Jun 13th 2000
51
Hey, K! I'm down here...
Jun 14th 2000
64
Back in the trenches
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
66
      RE: Lemme try this
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
70
           MY issue vs YOURS
Jun 14th 2000
73
                RE: MY issue vs YOURS
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
76
                Besides...
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
77
                     Word...how is a drug dealer different than the US Government?
Jun 15th 2000
86
                          Just goes to show ya
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
87
                          KoalaLove and Nahymsa....
Phraktal
Jun 15th 2000
88
ma...you are deliberately missing the point.
Jun 14th 2000
67
      Hold Up
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
68
      Let's try this
Jun 14th 2000
71
           What would you have done Shooz?
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
72
           RE: What would you have done Shooz?
Jun 14th 2000
74
                RE: What would you have done Shooz?
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
75
                     RE: What would you have done Shooz?
Jun 14th 2000
78
                          RE: What would you have done Shooz?
KoalaLove
Jun 14th 2000
79
                          RE: What would you have done Shooz?
Jun 15th 2000
89
                               Yuck
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
91
                          are you equating the government with a religious institution
Jun 15th 2000
81
                               RE: are you equating the government with a religious institution
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
82
                               She knows that the government sold drugs for arms with Iran Contra
Jun 15th 2000
84
                                    Dammit Nah
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
85
                               RE: are you equating the government with a religious institution
Jun 15th 2000
90
                                    But wait
KoalaLove
Jun 15th 2000
92
                                    K (and your band of happy people)
Jun 15th 2000
93
                                         nobody HAS to pay taxes..that is a fact
Jun 15th 2000
95
                                    umm..what the point of an example
Jun 15th 2000
94
           RE: Let's try this
Jun 15th 2000
83
Wow, tax evasion is related to "nigger"
Wise_7
Jun 14th 2000
80
ironic....
nakeisha
Jun 15th 2000
96
someone beat me to the webpage...
nakeisha
Jun 15th 2000
97

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