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I think you're right -- that happens a lot, although among the people I know who have lavished child-appropriate affection on their animals, most were quite clear that they wanted children. However, I can speak with some authority on this with respect to myself, at least, because it is me and my own personal experience, and I assure you that I do not mix up my animal companions with children. It's cool to have these funny little creatures around, particularly coming to greet me when I come home, or purring when I pet them, but I don't confuse the signs of affection with true love, particularly at dinner time.

There's actually quite a gulf between affection for animals and that for children. I don't have to dress my cats or worry about their college education or whether they're socializing with their peers properly. I feed them, but not the way you do a baby. I just put their food and water on the floor in a bowl. You wouldn't do that to a child. I don't read to them or encourage them to read more and watch television less, or to join clubs at school. Hell, I don't send them to school. I keep them locked in the house. If my animal companions were children I would be arrested, despite the fact that I am extremely fond of them and treat them well, but in an animal-appropriate manner.

Also, query what becomes of the animals-as-substitutes-for-children theory with respect to people who have both?

I acknowledge that your thoughts contain some truth, but I don't agree that all non-child bearing human companions of animals are using the animals as child substitutes. Nor would I agree that non-child bearing humans without animal companions are naturally unaffectionate. Nor would I agree that all people are meant to be parents. Some are not, and I am happy that I know and accept this about myself rather than not knowing or denying it and bringing a child into this world because of ignorance or guilt. It's better for everyone if those of us who do not see ourselves as parent material don't bear children.

Peace.

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All meetings end in separation
All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal. [View all] , Starchild, Thu Jul-13-00 11:16 AM
 
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RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 13th 2000
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RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Starchild
Jul 13th 2000
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damn skippy...
Kash2099
Jul 13th 2000
3
yup, plus this...
Gift
Jul 14th 2000
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RE: yup, plus this...
Gift
Jul 14th 2000
5
Can't let it go!!!!
Starchild
Jul 22nd 2000
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RE: Can't let it go!!!!
Spade
Jul 23rd 2000
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      RE: Can't let it go!!!!
Starchild
Jul 23rd 2000
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The reason you have...
Jul 24th 2000
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heptu
Jul 24th 2000
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RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Fletch
Jul 24th 2000
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      RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
heptu
Jul 24th 2000
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           Motherhood
Jul 24th 2000
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           RE: Motherhood
Fletch
Jul 24th 2000
15
           actually....
Jul 24th 2000
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           Just asking...
Jul 25th 2000
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                RE: Just asking...
Jul 25th 2000
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                     Although this isn't scientific at all...
Jul 26th 2000
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                               Interesting...
Jul 27th 2000
49
                                    Okay,
Jul 27th 2000
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                                         Sorry, one more thought
Jul 27th 2000
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                                              I feel you...
Jul 27th 2000
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Jul 27th 2000
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           RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Fletch
Jul 24th 2000
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                RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 24th 2000
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                     Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
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                          RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
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                               RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
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                               Thank You All
Starchild
Jul 24th 2000
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                               RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
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                                    RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
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                                    RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
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Jul 24th 2000
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Fletch
Jul 25th 2000
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      What?
Jul 25th 2000
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heptu
Jul 25th 2000
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           RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Fletch
Jul 25th 2000
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           Sorry, damn return button
Fletch
Jul 25th 2000
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                RE: Sorry, damn return button
Jul 25th 2000
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                     RE: Sorry, damn return button
Fletch
Jul 25th 2000
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           RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 25th 2000
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Shellypooh
Jul 25th 2000
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Jul 25th 2000
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RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 25th 2000
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ISSUES
Starchild
Jul 25th 2000
39
thank you for the justification.
Jul 25th 2000
40
      RE: thank you for the justification.
heptu
Jul 25th 2000
41
Agreed, but...
Jul 25th 2000
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RE:Chiken Heads...
Jul 25th 2000
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Love that book... n/m
Jul 25th 2000
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      RE: Love that book... n/m
Starchild
Jul 25th 2000
45
as the woman goes...
NiaRa
Jul 26th 2000
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