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heptu

Mon Jul-24-00 06:18 AM

  
10. "RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal."
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>As black women today, as well
>as minority women, it is
>up to us to change
>the face of feminism and
>the old school belief of
>what being an feminist is.

the white feminist
>movement was not in our
>best interest!

Amen, in some traditional African societies a womans worth is determined by her ability to raise her children, mangage her homestead, and provide support for her husband. In the western feminist thought a woman who stays at home to raise her children and provide a comfortable home for her man is regarded as old fashioned and a thorn in the side of modern womanism. I attribute this belief to the attitudes of most Western men. If a man and woman divorce and the woman was a "stay at home mom", the husband sees no reason why she should get anything from him. After all he went out to work everyday. Forget about the fact that he was able to work because he was fed every morning and each night, he had the comfort of knowing that he "seeds" were being well taken care of, and he had someone to come home to that with a single word or touch could release all of the frustration that comes along with being in corporate America. When women stop fighting to be contruction workers and police people and strt fighting for respect as mothers family mangagers we'll start to cherish these roles and perform them with pride and dignity.

we
>as women have to realize
>that we have more power
>than we choose to believe,
>when it comes to sexism
>and racism If we
>start loving ourselves and our
>sista's more, and showing it,
>and learning not only how
>to love our men, but
>respect them for the people
>that they are and not
>what we want them to
>be, or for what they
>have, men will have no
>other choice but to respect
>us.

The problem here as I see it is that women (esp. Black women) are raised to believe that our worth as people resides between our legs. It burns me when I hear women justify their behavior by saying "we have needs too". Now don't get me wrong I enjoy the company of a brother just like any other woman BUT, I enjoy my self-respect and dignity even more. I have been in a relationship for over 5 years and will soon get married, and until I do I think carefully about giving up control of my body each time the urge hits me. I make my decision based on my mental and spirtiual condition as well as my physical condtiton. And when the time is right..it's all good!
Men have started wars over women. Even David killed a man over a woman. We have so much power, why give it to some rapper dude just so you can "hold his ice".

  

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Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal. [View all] , Starchild, Thu Jul-13-00 11:16 AM
 
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RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 13th 2000
1
RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Starchild
Jul 13th 2000
2
damn skippy...
Kash2099
Jul 13th 2000
3
yup, plus this...
Gift
Jul 14th 2000
4
RE: yup, plus this...
Gift
Jul 14th 2000
5
Can't let it go!!!!
Starchild
Jul 22nd 2000
6
RE: Can't let it go!!!!
Spade
Jul 23rd 2000
7
      RE: Can't let it go!!!!
Starchild
Jul 23rd 2000
8
The reason you have...
Jul 24th 2000
9
RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Fletch
Jul 24th 2000
11
      RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
heptu
Jul 24th 2000
12
           Motherhood
Jul 24th 2000
13
           RE: Motherhood
Fletch
Jul 24th 2000
15
           actually....
Jul 24th 2000
16
           Just asking...
Jul 25th 2000
29
                RE: Just asking...
Jul 25th 2000
33
                     Although this isn't scientific at all...
Jul 26th 2000
46
                          Granted
Jul 27th 2000
48
                               Interesting...
Jul 27th 2000
49
                                    Okay,
Jul 27th 2000
50
                                         Sorry, one more thought
Jul 27th 2000
51
                                              I feel you...
Jul 27th 2000
52
                                                   RE: I feel you...
Jul 27th 2000
53
           RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Fletch
Jul 24th 2000
14
                RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 24th 2000
18
                     Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
19
                          RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
20
                               RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
21
                               Thank You All
Starchild
Jul 24th 2000
23
                               RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
22
                                    RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
24
                                    RE: Let's be clear
Jul 24th 2000
25
RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 24th 2000
17
RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Fletch
Jul 25th 2000
26
      What?
Jul 25th 2000
28
      RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
heptu
Jul 25th 2000
30
           RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Fletch
Jul 25th 2000
31
           Sorry, damn return button
Fletch
Jul 25th 2000
32
                RE: Sorry, damn return button
Jul 25th 2000
35
                     RE: Sorry, damn return button
Fletch
Jul 25th 2000
38
           RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 25th 2000
34
RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Shellypooh
Jul 25th 2000
27
RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 25th 2000
36
RE: Men and Women need to start talking HONESTLY, so we can heal.
Jul 25th 2000
37
ISSUES
Starchild
Jul 25th 2000
39
thank you for the justification.
Jul 25th 2000
40
      RE: thank you for the justification.
heptu
Jul 25th 2000
41
Agreed, but...
Jul 25th 2000
42
RE:Chiken Heads...
Jul 25th 2000
43
Love that book... n/m
Jul 25th 2000
44
      RE: Love that book... n/m
Starchild
Jul 25th 2000
45
as the woman goes...
NiaRa
Jul 26th 2000
47

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