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KoalaLove

Thu Jul-13-00 07:12 AM

  
4. "Works in theory"
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But in the real world we All have a great distance to go before we reach the state of what you signify as being "true." In my estimation "Whites" have a long way to go in terms of realizing their true selves (as opposed to the vicious lie that would deem them White- I go into this elsewhere) and coupling with that willfull abandonment of culture is especially dangerous for Blacks but any sister or brother also has that distance to go as well and as such its hard to quantify how far any of us have left on the path to true social enlightenement.

Its reasonable enough to say that thus far none of us have gotten there yet so quantifying how far we've come or even how much farther we've come than others doesnt really matter much.

Speaking personally there is a bond that I have with my Black girlfriend that I have never experienced before in my life- but Ive dated both black and "white" women and can say honestly that women on either side of (bullshit) race classifications are misguided and far from "true".
Even the two of us still have a great deal of ideas that are in much need of correction but to hold each other responsible for repairing those ideas is co-dependence and thats not necessarily healthy.

I think any of us will find that the idea of the "true sista" might just be too much for any person to bear- be they Black or White and I wonder if there is a difference between underestimating Black women and dating white ones or overestimating Black women and engaging in relationships that still dont work.

If Im not actively engaged in completing myself as an independent man or realizing that I am already whole- then adopting a Black woman as if she can complete me will provide a detriment to each of us reaching our full potential as people.

if a black man and a black woman only represent themselves as halves from the start then they are already diminishing their potential. Why settle for two halves making a whole when you can bring together two wholes...


The truth is we all have much much more to learn about ourselves and to stall that development to consider how far others have come will not be fortuitous in your personal development even if its for teh sake of loving a sista who you might think will fulfill your life. The twisted psychological baggage of teh people around you is just as bottomless as your own- it may soothe you to peer down into their idiosynchracies but you might just be better off repairing your own.

If you are somehow not complete today you will continue to be incomplete when you take on a partner even if culturally you presume that they share in your identity. By taking on someone else's half you only sacrifice your potential of being independently and individually whole.


K

  

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The Black Man/White Woman thing.... [View all] , ms_raimaia, Thu Jul-13-00 06:37 AM
 
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RE: The Black Man/White Woman thing....
Jul 13th 2000
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Nyckki
Jul 13th 2000
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RE: The Black Man/White Woman thing....
Jul 13th 2000
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      Did you say NINETEEN-67?
Jul 27th 2000
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           RE: Did you say NINETEEN-67?
Jul 28th 2000
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                very scary
Jul 30th 2000
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                     Here 'tis
Jul 31st 2000
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                          P.S. X 2
Jul 31st 2000
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RE: Works in theory
ms_raimaia
Jul 13th 2000
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well then
KoalaLove
Jul 13th 2000
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RE: Works in theory
Jul 23rd 2000
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      i'm saying!
Jul 27th 2000
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I don't agree....
Jul 13th 2000
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RE: The Black Man/White Woman thing....
dobopwee
Jul 13th 2000
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RE: The Black Man/White Woman thing....
Jul 13th 2000
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I love you Burb!
Jul 13th 2000
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sad but true.............
Jul 14th 2000
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      RE: sad but true.............
Jul 28th 2000
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RE: The Black Man/White Woman thing....
Ylana
Jul 14th 2000
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can I hug you?
Jul 14th 2000
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My perspective...
Jul 14th 2000
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Tank.
Jul 14th 2000
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Interesting perspective...
Naps
Jul 14th 2000
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RE: Interesting perspective...
Jul 23rd 2000
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The myth of global racial tolerance - outside of the US
Jul 24th 2000
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      RE: The myth of global racial tolerance - outside of the US
Jul 24th 2000
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      yep...
Jul 24th 2000
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      Agreed and disagreed...
Jul 25th 2000
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another american attitude...
sinestress
Jul 21st 2000
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I'm no essentialist...
Jul 17th 2000
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The Black Man/White Woman thing....
Jul 17th 2000
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word
Jul 19th 2000
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Food for thought?...
Jul 17th 2000
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Food for thought?...
Jul 17th 2000
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definitely an interesting perspective
sinestress
Jul 21st 2000
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RE: The Black Man/White Woman thing....
Xala
Jul 19th 2000
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The fly ish
Jul 19th 2000
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RE: The fly ish
Jul 31st 2000
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Black Man/White Woman theories are wack...........
Shellypooh
Jul 19th 2000
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READ: a piece of history
sinestress
Jul 21st 2000
25
what about black women and white men
Spade
Jul 23rd 2000
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      personally...
sinestress
Jul 23rd 2000
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      Black women are the least likely to marry outside of their race
Jul 24th 2000
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           RE: Black women are the least likely to marry outside of their race
Spade
Jul 25th 2000
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           The government keeps stats on marriage
Jul 26th 2000
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                I'll check myself
Jul 26th 2000
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                     Didn't realize this was a research paper
Jul 26th 2000
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Spade
Jul 26th 2000
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                               its all good :-)
Jul 27th 2000
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           wait a second
Jul 25th 2000
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Read my poem in Freestyle...
Jul 25th 2000
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DAYAM!!
Jul 26th 2000
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love is more than a feeling
NiaRa
Jul 26th 2000
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RE: love is more than a feeling
Jul 27th 2000
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