44. "RE: The real problem with poor people is..." In response to In response to 27
>I think the problem this discussion >is turning into is 'all' >vs 'some'.
I'm trying to turn into an all conversation. How do we address the problems of all poor people, but in particular those folks whom we might disapprove of.
>Can all poor people get jobs? >(No, studies on the current >welfare state is proving that)
They can all get jobs, barring disability. But jobs alone might not pay for their lifestyles. Jobs often have hidden costs. I thought after I started working full time I would be getting paid like a mug. Well I'm working fulltime and I have to eat lunch with my co-workers, buy business clothes, dry clean. There are all sorts of incidentals to having a professional job.
And professional jobs are becoming harder to get, and good paying blue collar jobs are even more difficult to get.
>Are some poor people not working >out of choice? Yeah, I >think some are.
>Can all of poor people's problems >be blamed on racism? A >huge percentage can easily be >but not >100%.
No doubt. Although is wanting to live among your own racism?
Is there a difference between white professionals moving to the suburbs and black students creating all african american dorms?
>Until, we agree on this (maybe >we can't) this discussion might >not get anywhere.
I think we agree on some points, but we might just be talking past each other on others.