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Cause I'm sure I saw the same thing in the Lesson.

A better question for this forum, is "Can white folks be down with for the 'cause'?"

Can you trust the trustifundian who marches for Mumia? How about Rage against the Machine. They talk the talk, and walk the walk, but they don't musically appeal to oppressed people.

But now that I think about it, if I were to spread an anti-racist, anti-corporate message, who better to address than white kids, who grow up to run these corporations and govts?

In terms of hip hop, you can't stop them. They got you on the grass roots as consumers and at the top of the pyramid as label heads. What does it say about Dead Prez when Rifkind funds them? How indepedent and political can Blackstar be on Rawkus (which was started by the lesser of 2 sons of Rupert Murdoch). Is Mos Def better off on MCA?

As a local hip hop person, I know that the folks that come to see the artists that I like a lot are generally white. I'm not going to get the eastside to come out for KRS-1. Sure they're might be a few mc's from the hood come out, but the neighborhood ain't showing up in force unless it's Lil Keke, Wreckshop family, or UGK. It's not that I dislike the aforementioned artists, in fact I'm sure I've got tapes from all of them. It is very common in my town, and it seems all across the net, to hate on artists that appeal to everyone else in your locale. Usually the salt is based on things other than beats and rhymes, but even then the 'purists' are two-faced.

But the g-rap heads aren't cutting for things not from Houston, or not sounding like Houston. (we even got a song down here about how everyone wants to sound like the Screwed up Clique)

How effective is Aceyalone's words on black empowerment when his fan base is 99% white?

Ideally, everything would be like San Diego. I went to a Gavin there in 97 or 98, but the hip hop heads there were multi-colored, and multi-educated. IE not everyone at the 'underground' shows was from the burbs or in college.

But then again, I"m a hip hop nationalist, so I'm biased.

k. orr

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White people place in Hip-Hop Culture!! [View all] , jbortolotti, Wed Aug-23-00 04:43 AM
 
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RE: White people place in Hip-Hop Culture!!
Aug 23rd 2000
1
RE: White people place in Hip-Hop Culture!!
jbortolotti
Aug 23rd 2000
2
Racism is believing hip hop needs white people
Aug 23rd 2000
4
RE: It's called Blaxploitation!!!!!
Sep 01st 2000
99
OKPlayer is hip-hop culture,
Aug 24th 2000
5
Okayplayer is probably 75% white
Aug 24th 2000
6
      RE: Okayplayer is probably 75% white
Aug 24th 2000
7
           Aren't you
Aug 24th 2000
9
           RE: Aren't you
Aug 24th 2000
12
                now now
Aug 24th 2000
14
                RE: now now
Aug 24th 2000
15
                     Yes
Aug 24th 2000
16
                          why am I only now beginning to see how smart you are...
black_engineer
Aug 29th 2000
51
                               how smart you are.
black_engineer
Aug 29th 2000
52
                I'm far
Aug 24th 2000
17
                RE: I'm far
Aug 24th 2000
18
                     Seriously
Aug 24th 2000
19
                     I don't think
Aug 24th 2000
22
                     RE: Seriously
Aug 24th 2000
24
                          Seriously?
velodragon
Aug 30th 2000
84
                               Chill
Aug 30th 2000
85
                                    oh
velodragon
Aug 30th 2000
91
                     RE: I'm far
Aug 24th 2000
21
                          Blowin hot air
Aug 24th 2000
23
                               That's the spirit!
Aug 24th 2000
25
                               RE: That's the spirit!
Aug 24th 2000
26
                               Damn enter key!
Aug 24th 2000
29
                                    Glad you enjoyed yourself
Aug 24th 2000
30
                                         It's better
Aug 24th 2000
32
                               RE: does saying 'ish' and 'jawn' make folks 'urban'?
Sep 01st 2000
100
                RE: Aren't you
NINJAETTE
Aug 29th 2000
49
                     Ninjaette
Aug 29th 2000
50
           Fear?
Aug 24th 2000
20
                RE: Fear?
iluvmaxy
Aug 24th 2000
33
                an interesting idea....
Aug 24th 2000
34
                RE: an interesting idea....
Aug 25th 2000
37
                RE: an interesting idea....
Aug 25th 2000
39
                     definetly agree...
Aug 25th 2000
42
                RE: an interesting idea....
Sep 01st 2000
101
                Speaking of which
OneThousand
Aug 25th 2000
38
                     Modern day country
Aug 25th 2000
43
                     I know the banjo is an african instrument
Aug 28th 2000
48
                     RE: Speaking of which
Sep 01st 2000
102
Come one come all
KoalaLove
Aug 24th 2000
8
Men?
Aug 24th 2000
10
      arrrrgh
KoalaLove
Aug 24th 2000
11
           I know
Aug 24th 2000
13
                I Started this post to...
jbortolotti
Aug 24th 2000
27
                     RE: I Started this post to...
Aug 24th 2000
28
                     That European model
Aug 24th 2000
31
Upski
Aug 24th 2000
35
RE: Bomb the Suburbs
sponge
Aug 25th 2000
36
      Get it online...
Aug 25th 2000
40
           I find it funny how........
kamikazee
Aug 25th 2000
41
                Is this post responding to mine?
Aug 25th 2000
44
                RE: Is this post responding to mine?
kamikazee
Aug 25th 2000
45
                     again...
Aug 27th 2000
46
                this is pure ignorance...
Aug 28th 2000
47
                     RE: this is pure ignorance...
kamikazee
Aug 30th 2000
76
                          RE: this is pure ignorance...
Sep 01st 2000
103
RE: White people place in Hip-Hop Culture!!
starberry
Aug 29th 2000
53
RE: White people place in Hip-Hop Culture!!
Aug 29th 2000
54
      RE: White people place in Hip-Hop Culture!!
starberry
Aug 29th 2000
55
      Why not?
Aug 29th 2000
56
           RE: Why not?
starberry
Aug 29th 2000
57
           You have some issues
Aug 30th 2000
59
           Sorry one more thing
Aug 30th 2000
60
           No!!!!!!
Aug 30th 2000
61
                What do you mean?
Aug 30th 2000
62
           RE: You have some issues
starberry
Aug 30th 2000
63
           What?
Aug 30th 2000
65
                RE: What?
starberry
Aug 30th 2000
66
                     Both of you
Aug 30th 2000
67
                     Another intelligent comment
Aug 30th 2000
68
                     BOTH OF YOU
Aug 30th 2000
69
                     RE: Another intelligent comment
starberry
Aug 30th 2000
70
                          Ok
Aug 30th 2000
71
                               Stop it now, both of you
Aug 30th 2000
73
                     RE: What?
Aug 30th 2000
81
                          Chill darlin'
Aug 30th 2000
82
                               RE: Chill darlin'
Aug 30th 2000
83
           Deconstruction
Aug 30th 2000
64
                AMEN
Aug 30th 2000
72
                damn, janey..
AfricanHerbsman
Aug 30th 2000
74
                exactly...
blue
Aug 30th 2000
75
                Good Point
Aug 30th 2000
86
                     Everyone here is my teacher
Aug 30th 2000
87
                     RE: Good Point
starberry
Aug 30th 2000
89
                          Hey Star, here's the flipside
Aug 30th 2000
90
                          here's my take on it
Aug 30th 2000
92
                               sorry.
Aug 30th 2000
93
                               RE: here's my take on it
Aug 31st 2000
94
           They buy both
Aug 30th 2000
80
           RE: Why not?
Aug 30th 2000
79
                RE: Why not?
Aug 30th 2000
88
                     RE: Why not?
Aug 31st 2000
95
                          Great post!
Aug 31st 2000
96
                               RE: Great post!
Sep 01st 2000
97
                                    Just a few more thoughts
Sep 01st 2000
106
                                         RE: Just a few more thoughts
Sep 02nd 2000
107
      Gospel, Cash Money, No Limit
Aug 30th 2000
78
Opinions, assholes, and... everybody just chill, please.
Aug 29th 2000
58
Lemme say somethin........
kamikazee
Aug 30th 2000
77
      RE: Lemme say somethin........
Sep 01st 2000
105
B/c they buy the music it don't mean it's theirs.....
Sep 01st 2000
98
RE: B/c they buy the music it don't mean it's theirs.....
Sep 01st 2000
104

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