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Phraktal

Tue Sep-26-00 12:50 PM

  
30. "RE: elitism?"
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>Like I said in my earlier
>post: we need to put
>away our fears and control
>games, and DO THE WORK
>of learning each other's languages
>and histories. We need to
>understand that these histories --
>and thus our very identities
>and lives -- are completely
>intertwined. We need each other
>if we're going to make
>any progress.

I understand where you're coming from. The basis of my argument lies in the fact that some resources are unevenly distributed. When I was in school I learned american/european history. Most of the people who owned businesses in my neigborhood didn't look like me. The images on television didn't represent me either. The books I was assigned to read for school lacked relevance for me. I've been learning other peoples history all my life. Only in my junior year of high school did I decide to learn about me! I took the initiative a found a whole new world that I was NEVER exposed to in school. I know so many people who don't take that initiative, who don't know ANYTHING about themselves.

I see your point El Rey, but maybe it's me. I'm stubborn. I can't bring myself to believe that the current social conditions are beneficial to a healthy black psyche. The things I presented (schools, business, land ownership) are some of the basic necessities of contemporary existence. For blacks to obtain these things on a mass scale can only be helpful to a community. To obtain these things on a mass scale would require a FOCUSED agenda - a sort of mental SEPARATION from the status quo. An acknowledgement of the fact that we can help ourselves, and help ourselves BIG TIME.

The melting pot idea is good though. I'm down with the Rainbow Coalition too. It's just that all too often black people get stuck where the sun don't shine.

peace...






  

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Does separatism=racism? [View all] , Phraktal, Thu Sep-21-00 01:23 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
....are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Sep 21st 2000
1
We are de facto separated now
Sep 22nd 2000
2
RE: We are de facto separated now
Sep 22nd 2000
4
RE: We are de facto separated now
Phraktal
Sep 22nd 2000
5
      if you're serious
Sep 22nd 2000
8
      very serious
Phraktal
Sep 22nd 2000
12
           How serious?
Sep 22nd 2000
13
      Japan
Sep 22nd 2000
10
           ask the Koreans living there ...
Sep 22nd 2000
17
i agree 100%
Sep 22nd 2000
3
we separated the issues.....
Sep 22nd 2000
6
RE: we separated the issues.....
Phraktal
Sep 22nd 2000
7
      RE: we separated the issues.....
Sep 22nd 2000
9
Simply put
Sep 22nd 2000
11
that's very selfish of you
soyful
Sep 22nd 2000
14
RE: that's very selfish of you
Phraktal
Sep 22nd 2000
15
How is seperatism possible?
Sep 22nd 2000
16
RE: How is seperatism possible?
Itrans
Sep 22nd 2000
18
      RE: How is seperatism possible?
d-Best
Sep 25th 2000
19
RE: Does separatism=racism?
Sep 25th 2000
20
men have a hard time multi-tasking ...
Sep 26th 2000
27
      ya know?!?! n/m
Sep 26th 2000
29
Thanks
Phraktal
Sep 25th 2000
21
elitism?
Sep 25th 2000
22
      RE: elitism?
Phraktal
Sep 25th 2000
23
           RE: elitism?
Sep 25th 2000
24
           RE: elitism?
Sep 26th 2000
28
               
                     Seperation from status quo
Sep 27th 2000
31
RE: Does separatism=racism?
diosa
Sep 26th 2000
25
race matters
Sep 26th 2000
26

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