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el_rey
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28. "RE: elitism?"
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>Some don't see anything wrong
>with the current conditions.
>Those are the people who
>can't "grasp" the concept of
>business ownership, or controlling our
>school curriculum, or pride in
>your own heritage for that
>matter.

But are these things necessarily restricted to being confined within a particular ethnic group? I won't lie, I think that white people aren't at all up for the hard work involved in decolonizing themselves to the point where they can have honest and uncluttered human relationships with the people they've dominated over for hundreds of years. But ... I'VE HEARD IT'S POSSIBLE. I just heard of a multi-ethnic group (mostly black and white) that traveled the Middle Passage together as a sort of healing process. They seemed very clear that they were going to be brutally honest with each other in terms of what came up for them along the trip. To me, this says that their are actually people that are willing to TAKE THE RISK of healing racism's wounds and not just running from them. I'm not (completely) saying that seperatism is running from anything, but I do think that what you've spoken of here (controll of schools/ideology, businesses, etc.) can be done across the strictb boundaries that have divided us for so long. In fact, I believe that freedom can ONLY come from this inter-relation and WORK.

Like I said in my earlier post: we need to put away our fears and control games, and DO THE WORK of learning each other's languages and histories. We need to understand that these histories -- and thus our very identities and lives -- are completely intertwined. We need each other if we're going to make any progress.


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El Rey


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Does separatism=racism? [View all] , Phraktal, Thu Sep-21-00 01:23 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
....are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Sep 21st 2000
1
We are de facto separated now
Sep 22nd 2000
2
RE: We are de facto separated now
Sep 22nd 2000
4
RE: We are de facto separated now
Phraktal
Sep 22nd 2000
5
      if you're serious
Sep 22nd 2000
8
      very serious
Phraktal
Sep 22nd 2000
12
           How serious?
Sep 22nd 2000
13
      Japan
Sep 22nd 2000
10
           ask the Koreans living there ...
Sep 22nd 2000
17
i agree 100%
Sep 22nd 2000
3
we separated the issues.....
Sep 22nd 2000
6
RE: we separated the issues.....
Phraktal
Sep 22nd 2000
7
      RE: we separated the issues.....
Sep 22nd 2000
9
Simply put
Sep 22nd 2000
11
that's very selfish of you
soyful
Sep 22nd 2000
14
RE: that's very selfish of you
Phraktal
Sep 22nd 2000
15
How is seperatism possible?
Sep 22nd 2000
16
RE: How is seperatism possible?
Itrans
Sep 22nd 2000
18
      RE: How is seperatism possible?
d-Best
Sep 25th 2000
19
RE: Does separatism=racism?
Sep 25th 2000
20
men have a hard time multi-tasking ...
Sep 26th 2000
27
      ya know?!?! n/m
Sep 26th 2000
29
Thanks
Phraktal
Sep 25th 2000
21
elitism?
Sep 25th 2000
22
      RE: elitism?
Phraktal
Sep 25th 2000
23
           RE: elitism?
Sep 25th 2000
24
          
                RE: elitism?
Phraktal
Sep 26th 2000
30
                     Seperation from status quo
Sep 27th 2000
31
RE: Does separatism=racism?
diosa
Sep 26th 2000
25
race matters
Sep 26th 2000
26

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