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d-Best

Tue Sep-26-00 12:29 PM

  
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for real, though. Where else can cats represent back and forth like this and still show made love?


My thoughts. i totally feel whoever talked about intrinsic (internal) motivation vs. extrinsic (wanting to be somebody/have stuff?) --i feel that, though it smacks of socialism (just playin'!)


On the other note, to my Player who mentioned that the majority of people aren't "racist" and "most men" are against gender inequality.

It may not be en vogue to be labelled as a racist or to consider oneself a racist--this is true. But we must take pause before we consider this to be the absence of or lack of racism.

What we will find is that most people are "notaracists" ("yo, not that I'M racist or anything..." "well... you know... um... black people..." etc. etc. etc.)

--cats who aren't down with the concept of racism, but still contribute to it's existence.


I was reading this Janet Helms book about the creation of white identity, and how that contributes to racism (she makes good points, but at the time of writing this book, she didn't know what the hell she was talking about... peep it anyway "A Race Is A Good Thing To Have" Janet Helms, PhD)

she talks about how people need to admit how they contibute to racism.

ALL white people enjoy white privilege, their race is not made an issue --all the stuff that just IS by default... white doesn't think about afirmative action (affirmations, not quotas, y'all...) white doesn't think about police harassment

by not having to deal with many things, and enjoying how all systems in the US are originally and still set up to benefit white cats, this white privilege contributes to a racist state--one that favors one melanin over another.


Now on the female tip: ALL men contribute to gender inequality. Not only in accepting higher wages, talking to men about women, saying "you know how women are," picking kickball teams, subconscious urge to lift heavy things instead of making your sister do it, subconscious urge to doubt women businesspeople, thinking "wow that's cool" when a woman does everyday man stuff, WANTING SEX AND COERCING TO GET IT "awww, come on, baby...," raising daughters to be princess, blue and pink, war toys for boys, dolls for girls.



These things are intrinsic, embedded aspects of our current social system. But our steps to correct them are usually turning off the lights, or sweeping shit under the rug--this doesn't change the embedded setup, or the structure of our oppressive systems. This just says "bad" and tries to "move on"

But moving on denies cats the chance to heal, it devalues pain. It also ignores roots and causes of these problems and pretends that suddenly, over-night, all these things are okay.

we all know life doesn't generally work that way.

I appreciate y'all playing along. I hope you know this example was to get us all talking.

Let's keep it goin', y'all

  

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how can we create equality without reversal [View all] , d-Best, Mon Sep-25-00 08:45 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
man is not created equal
Sep 25th 2000
1
Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right
Marinera
Sep 25th 2000
2
RE: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right
Sep 25th 2000
3
RE: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right
dobopwee
Sep 25th 2000
4
3 rights make a left
Sep 26th 2000
5
      RE: 3 rights make a left
Sep 26th 2000
6
          
           RE: 3 rights make a left
Sep 27th 2000
9
                RE: 3 rights make a left
d-Best
Sep 28th 2000
10
                RE: Clearing things up...
Sep 28th 2000
12
                     RE: Clearing things up...
d-Best
Sep 29th 2000
13
                RE: 3 rights make a left
Phraktal
Sep 28th 2000
11
RE: how can we create equality without reversal
Marinera
Sep 26th 2000
8
RE: how can we create equality without reversal
d-Best
Sep 29th 2000
14

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