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65. "RE: Blacks acting white"
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Ok, what I meant, is that, for all intents and purposes, I believe that "feminist" often forget to say that:

1) they are white
2) they are talking about white culture
3) they are talking about white men

Yes, there is a whole body of feminism out that that stem from women of color, however, I have to wonder, in what ways has that been "infected" by European cultural standards and thought and behavior?

And, _before_ you go off on me, please, if you know of any "womanist" writers/theorist, please, tip me off...

Also, the reason why I call for a distinction is because gender is formed differently in African-American communities and in Africa, so it follows that there should be a body of study that _reflects_ this.

Also, I have issues with the language. It is part of European culture to think of people in terms of either/or constructs, like men/women. I am not saying that Black people (when I say Black, I am referring to Americans of African descent) don't, but our adopting this kind of thought stems from the oppression we have been dealt. I am done with either/or constructs because they never felt right nor "sat" well with me... I feel as if I am talking in circles.

But another point I think I should make is that feminism often doesn't deal with:

1) Blackness
2) Black culture, specifically
3) Black men, specifically

because, we (Black men and white men) are not and cannot be lumped together... why? Because for one, they are exhibiting cultural traditions. For the other, they are 1)adopting those cultural tradition or 2) trying to come up with cultural traditions that reflect the culture from which they come from or 3) being very aware that the cultural traditions from which he comes have been lost to him or 4)... a whole bunch of things... I could go on and on, but that's because, as a Black man, I think about my brothas all the time...

So... that's what I meant...

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"When the revolution comes, "faggots" won't be so funny." - The Last Poets

** Most people mis-read this line. I don't think he is being homophobic. I think he's making sure you folks know, within our communities, those of you who laugh at

  

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Whites "acting" Black [View all] , Ailyha, Sat Oct-28-00 10:42 AM
 
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vuduchild
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I understand what you're saying here
Oct 28th 2000
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RE: I understand what you're saying here
vuduchild
Oct 28th 2000
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RE: I understand what you're saying here
Nov 10th 2000
31
Good Shit!!!
Nov 10th 2000
35
I wasn't clear
Nov 11th 2000
41
      to reiterate
Nov 11th 2000
42
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Dyskotek
Nov 14th 2000
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Brooklax
Nov 22nd 2000
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empower_me
Nov 14th 2000
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      RE: I understand what you're saying here
Brooklax
Nov 22nd 2000
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Oct 28th 2000
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RE: Whites "acting" Black
Oct 29th 2000
8
Shim are you.........
Oct 29th 2000
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I don't think this is about 'stealing'
Oct 29th 2000
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RE: I don't think this is about 'stealing'
Oct 29th 2000
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RE: I don't think this is about 'stealing'
Nov 10th 2000
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UnOrthoDox
Nov 12th 2000
47
      RE: I don't think this is about 'stealing'
sp215
Nov 17th 2000
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      RE: I don't think this is about 'stealing'
meiyah
Nov 22nd 2000
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I don't think this is about 'stealing'
Oct 29th 2000
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awww
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RE: Whites "acting" Black
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If we are a global village
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Nov 13th 2000
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IzeUp
Nov 02nd 2000
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      RE: Whites "acting" Black
Nov 21st 2000
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Ben Stiller's Joke
Oct 29th 2000
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RE: Ben Stiller's Joke
Nov 13th 2000
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      RE: Ben Stiller's Joke
Nov 15th 2000
62
Here's a quote for you
Oct 30th 2000
15
Blacks "acting" white?
Trey
Oct 30th 2000
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RE: Blacks "acting" white?
d-Best
Oct 30th 2000
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I got in a convo...
Oct 30th 2000
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      RE: I got in a convo...
Oct 30th 2000
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      well said playa n/m
Nov 01st 2000
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      yup
Nov 01st 2000
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I did
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in the words of Paul Mooney
Wise_7
Oct 30th 2000
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Shellypooh
Oct 30th 2000
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RE: Blacks "acting" white?
Nov 10th 2000
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re:
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RE: re: same boat
Nov 12th 2000
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fuck stereotypes
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an addition
Nov 02nd 2000
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RE: fuck stereotypes
Nov 13th 2000
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Nov 03rd 2000
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Rudegrrrl
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Nov 13th 2000
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      RE: Blacks acting white
Rudegrrrl
Nov 14th 2000
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Rudegrrrl
Nov 16th 2000
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                          RE: Blacks acting white
Rudegrrrl
Nov 17th 2000
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SheRise
Nov 21st 2000
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yo yo yo whut up G
Nov 10th 2000
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RE: yo yo yo whut up G
Nov 13th 2000
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      you missed my point. I agree with you 100%
Nov 14th 2000
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RE: Whites "acting" Black
wileouter
Nov 11th 2000
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RE: Whites "acting" Black
Nov 13th 2000
54
Give me a break.
BeeFred
Nov 11th 2000
40
RE: Give me a break.
Brooklax
Nov 21st 2000
74
RE: yes
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