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Stanklove

Mon Feb-26-01 03:41 PM

  
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I suppose if you define Islam by the literal translation, "submission to God" then the argument could be made that Islam is natural. However if you're being at all pragmatic your definition of Islam would have to include the accompanying texts, practices, and dogma associated with Islam. After all, I consider myself in submission to Allah by the sheer fact that as an omnipotent and omniscient being and the creator of the world, Allah exerts significant control over my existence. But no one would consider me a Muslim just by virtue of this "submission". By a more reasonable definition, Islam (and all other religions) cannot be considered "natural". As human beings we are not born with any specific religious practices. We are instead socialized to conform to a certain religion, and anything we do that is considered religious is a learned behavior. This doesn't make religion less powerful, or imply that you can't differentiate between the relative "rightness" of different religions, but it does mean that non of them are natural.
As for the spread of Islam by force. Islam was spread by force in some instances (Moors in Spain), by persuasion from societal benefits in others (Ottoman Empire), and by voluntary conversion in other instances. Contrary to popular belief Islam did not originate as a "Black Man's religion". Even today South Sudanese African are being slaughtered and enslaved by North Sudanese Muslims (Arabs).
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Islam=Natural Relegion? [View all] , MellofromGI, Sun Feb-25-01 01:19 PM
 
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RE: Islam=Natural Relegion?
avant_garde
Feb 25th 2001
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RE: Islam=Natural Relegion?
Feb 25th 2001
2
Amazing
Feb 26th 2001
6
RE: Amazing
Feb 26th 2001
8
     
      RE: Amazin
Feb 26th 2001
10
           RE: Amazin
Stanklove
Feb 27th 2001
11
                Thank you!
Feb 27th 2001
12
                RE: Amazin
Feb 28th 2001
14
      RE: Amazing
that thang
Feb 28th 2001
22
           RE: Amazing
Feb 28th 2001
24
                RE: Amazing
that thang
Feb 28th 2001
25
                     RE: Amazing
Feb 28th 2001
26
What religion is native to Africa?
Feb 28th 2001
18
      That's "pagan."
Feb 28th 2001
20
           you know we were all heathens
Feb 28th 2001
23
islam is natural
Feb 25th 2001
3
RE: islam is natural
aristo
Feb 28th 2001
27
by the sword..
Feb 25th 2001
4
RE: by the sword..
Feb 25th 2001
5
African Christianity isn't...
Feb 26th 2001
7
      RE: African Christianity isn't...
PanthersPride
Feb 27th 2001
13
           This isn't true
Feb 28th 2001
15
                RE: Slave Manumission in Islam
Feb 28th 2001
19
first muslims were black,
Isa_Sabur
Feb 28th 2001
16
RE: Islam=Natural Relegion?
cantlie
Feb 28th 2001
17
RE: Islam=Natural Relegion?
Feb 28th 2001
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