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8. "RE: Amazing"
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bismillah

>Did a concept of "Adam and
>Eve" exist before the Old
>Testament and subsequently the New
>Testament and the Quran? No,
>moving on...

what concept? explain.


>what do you mean "stars" didn't
>exist? According to Bible
>(I do not know about
>the Quran), the STARS were
>created BEFORE MAN.

recall that i said "didnt exist" OR "didnt know anything about it". i didnt state which category that stars fell under.


>What way of life is this?
> The problem is that
>you use "submission to God"
>and "islam" interchangeably. Though
>conceptually this IS the meaning
>of Islam, the manner in
>which it is practice varies
>from person to person. Although
>Christianity has been spread or
>introduced to peoples throughout the
>world, Islam (as determined by
>the Quran) HASN'T. The
>fact that is has to
>be SPREAD (Christianity included) show
>that it is NOT in
>fact INHERENT to all peoples.


Allah says in the qur'an:
"do they not look at Allah's creation. Among things,-How their shadows turn round, from the right and the left, prostrating themselves to Allah, and that in the humblest manner? And to Allah does prostrate all that is in the heavens and on earth, whether moving creatures or the angels: for none are arrogant (before their Lord)."-16:49,50.

look at your shadow the next time you are outside. its only "natural" that your shadow does what it does. and if it did anything contrary to what we normally know a shadow to do, then that would be "unnatural"!

everything submits to Allah. some are perfect in their submission, and some are not. if the sun ever went of its "natural" course, then we would be dead! thus the sun submits to the commands of Allah, never slacking a bit, always obedient!

>>"Did Arabs not conquer northern africa
>>and its people and force
>>them to pratice Islam in
>>the same way that Christians
>>came with rifles and bibles?"
>>
>
>This is not totally true.
>Although in some cases it
>was spread by force, it
>also became a "religion of
>convenience." In many cases the
>religion was spread through usage
>of the oral and written
>Arabic language which was the
>favored mode of communication during
>the Tran-saharan Trade. Also
>in cases where Islam represented
>the religion of the ruling
>body, conversion to Islam represented
>many societal benefits. In
>many cases (particularly in Egypt),
>Christians (contrary to popular
>belief) were not persecuted but
>Muslim were given special privileges
>that increased greater social stratification
>and wealth. However indigenous
>belief systems were often shunned
>and its adherents persecuted because
>of unlike Christianity or Judaism,
>they were not "People of
>the Book" meaning that they
>were purely "pagans" and "heathens.

where did you get your info from? i really would like to read what you read. seriously! everybody in the world has a motive for doing something and id like to see where the author's motives are going.

out.

subhankallahumma wabihamdihi ashhadu anla ilaha illa ant astagfiruka waatuubu ilaika

  

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Islam=Natural Relegion? [View all] , MellofromGI, Sun Feb-25-01 01:19 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: Islam=Natural Relegion?
avant_garde
Feb 25th 2001
1
RE: Islam=Natural Relegion?
Feb 25th 2001
2
Amazing
Feb 26th 2001
6
      RE: Amazing
Stanklove
Feb 26th 2001
9
      RE: Amazin
Feb 26th 2001
10
           RE: Amazin
Stanklove
Feb 27th 2001
11
                Thank you!
Feb 27th 2001
12
                RE: Amazin
Feb 28th 2001
14
      RE: Amazing
that thang
Feb 28th 2001
22
           RE: Amazing
Feb 28th 2001
24
                RE: Amazing
that thang
Feb 28th 2001
25
                     RE: Amazing
Feb 28th 2001
26
What religion is native to Africa?
Feb 28th 2001
18
      That's "pagan."
Feb 28th 2001
20
           you know we were all heathens
Feb 28th 2001
23
islam is natural
Feb 25th 2001
3
RE: islam is natural
aristo
Feb 28th 2001
27
by the sword..
Feb 25th 2001
4
RE: by the sword..
Feb 25th 2001
5
African Christianity isn't...
Feb 26th 2001
7
      RE: African Christianity isn't...
PanthersPride
Feb 27th 2001
13
           This isn't true
Feb 28th 2001
15
                RE: Slave Manumission in Islam
Feb 28th 2001
19
first muslims were black,
Isa_Sabur
Feb 28th 2001
16
RE: Islam=Natural Relegion?
cantlie
Feb 28th 2001
17
RE: Islam=Natural Relegion?
Feb 28th 2001
21

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