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54. "It's not that complicated!"
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I am so tired of this idea floating around in the Black community that for some reason Black women (or Black men, I guess)are hating on love, I mean genuine, strip you of your skin, heart-to-heart, soul-to-soul kind of love. If you are in LOVE with someone of a different race, I can't tell you nothin' but go 'head. With that said, I am one of those "sistas" who looks twice when I see a White woman with a Black man. I wonder if she really loves him, if her parents know about him, if she would truly consider marrying him, if she approached him in the first place because she was curious about the rumors of his sexual prowess, if she's ever called someone a "nigger," if she, 50 years ago, would have slept with that Black man and if she got caught, would she have cried rape, and watched him be lynched.

I wonder these things because of the volatile, often violent relationship between Black and White in our society. It's sad that sometimes love can't even avoid being politicized, but in this country, Black and White is always political, and anyone who doesn't understand that is just ignorant.

But while I wonder things about her, I also wonder thing about him...like, has he been influenced by media standards of beauty, if they have children, will he let her bring White barbies into the house, so that his bi-racial, curly-haired children can get an early start on a self-hate complex, does he know about the social connotations that stem back to slavery where White women represented freedom and status, whereas Black women represented slavery and poverty, has he truly asked himself these questions and is he absolutely sure that his "love" is in no way influenced by the media, history, or a White supremacist society, does he hate himself and not want to look at what reminds him of himself, his hair, skin, nose, his past.

I wonder these things because socialization, unfortunately, has a lot to do with the choices we make. If he is dating a White woman out of conformity to a White supremacist ideal, then I consider that a slap in the face. In that single gesture, subconscious or conscious, he is calling me ugly, stupid, and over-bearing. I am offended by that, and think that I have every right to be. However, if he is at peace with himself and his Blackness, and is dating a White woman because her soul is a match to his, because she completes him on a level that is beyond our earthly vocabulary, beyond our earthly bodies even, if the stars spell their names and the sun rises and sets in each others' eyes, then I can't say a damn thing, nor would I want to.

It's sad but I feel that the first idea, the fact that the socialization of Whiteness as beautiful and smart is powerful, probably explains most interracial (Black male/White female) relationships, which is nobody's fault in the actual relationships. Ultimately, I hope that we can all find someone who we connect with and can stay with, regardless of race and outside of political realities.

By the way, I am a Korean and Black woman with a Black and White fiancee. Won't our kids be cute?

  

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Interracial Luv [View all] , Francis X, Tue Feb-20-01 12:24 PM
 
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RE: Interracial Luv
Nice1
Feb 20th 2001
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RE: Interracial Luv
utamaroho
Feb 20th 2001
2
ayyyyyyyy.......what if she 1/2 white?
Feb 20th 2001
3
RE: ayyyyyyyy.......what if she 1/2 white?
utamaroho
Feb 20th 2001
4
      hahaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaahahahahahahaaa
Feb 20th 2001
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      RE: hahaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaahahahahahahaaa
utamaroho
Feb 20th 2001
6
      RE: hahaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaahahahahahahaaa
Feb 21st 2001
23
      quadroon? lmao...damn...n/m
Feb 21st 2001
9
      RE: ayyyyyyyy.......what if she 1/2 white?
Feb 21st 2001
22
           props man...
Feb 26th 2001
59
                Pitiful
Feb 27th 2001
85
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 21st 2001
10
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 21st 2001
13
Jill Scott Quote . . .
Marinera
Feb 21st 2001
7
RE: Jill Scott Quote . . .
Feb 21st 2001
11
      RE: Jill Scott Quote . . .
Marinera
Feb 21st 2001
27
           bullshit........
Feb 22nd 2001
30
                Jah?
Marinera
Feb 23rd 2001
40
as long as its all love
Feb 21st 2001
8
RE: as long as its all love
Feb 21st 2001
16
      RE: ?
Feb 21st 2001
19
      Europeans in Love
Feb 21st 2001
24
           RE: Europeans in Love
Feb 22nd 2001
28
           It would look...
Feb 22nd 2001
31
           oh u wanna go here...
Feb 23rd 2001
38
      I'm sorry did I miss something??
Feb 23rd 2001
37
      RE: I'm sorry did I miss something??
Feb 23rd 2001
39
      I was responding to Solarus' response to my post n/m
Feb 23rd 2001
42
      From a non-European perspective
Feb 23rd 2001
44
           RE: From a non-European perspective
Feb 23rd 2001
48
                RE: From a non-European perspective
Feb 24th 2001
50
                RE: Cued
Feb 26th 2001
57
                I hesitate to ask...
tangocharlie
Mar 01st 2001
108
                     'Westerner'
Mar 01st 2001
109
      I'm calm...
Feb 23rd 2001
45
           Off subject entirely....
Feb 23rd 2001
46
      RE: as long as its all love
tangocharlie
Mar 01st 2001
107
I agree
Feb 21st 2001
12
RE: Interracial Luv
Eyesis
Feb 21st 2001
14
yeah......fuck the bullshit!....
Feb 21st 2001
15
amen
Feb 21st 2001
20
RE: Interracial Luv
ms hannum
Feb 21st 2001
25
say dat then!
Feb 22nd 2001
32
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 23rd 2001
36
      RE: Interracial Luv
Eyesis
Feb 23rd 2001
47
SHUT THE FUCK UP CRACKA,
Isa_Sabur
Feb 21st 2001
17
hee hee hee
utamaroho
Feb 21st 2001
18
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 21st 2001
21
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 21st 2001
26
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 22nd 2001
29
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 22nd 2001
33
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 23rd 2001
43
Ha!
Marinera
Feb 26th 2001
79
RE: Interracial Luv
Francis X
Feb 22nd 2001
34
RE: Interracial Luv
djfirewheel
Feb 22nd 2001
35
      RE: Interracial Luv
Big J
Feb 23rd 2001
41
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 23rd 2001
49
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 24th 2001
51
      RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 24th 2001
52
           just 4 the record
Feb 25th 2001
53
           RE: for Nettrice.....textbooks
Feb 26th 2001
80
                y'know what pisses me off?
Feb 27th 2001
87
Pocahontas
Eyesis
Feb 26th 2001
55
RE: Pocahontas
Feb 26th 2001
63
      RE: Pocahontas
Eyesis
Feb 28th 2001
102
what about....
Feb 26th 2001
56
Well...
Feb 26th 2001
69
      thanks
Feb 26th 2001
70
Wat de Blood?
Feb 26th 2001
58
wrong
error 404
Feb 26th 2001
60
why is it pitiful?
Feb 26th 2001
61
oh and btw Solarus...
Feb 26th 2001
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      I wanted to see...
Feb 26th 2001
64
           Now you're illiterate too?
Feb 26th 2001
71
                So Sad
Feb 26th 2001
72
Damn...
Feb 26th 2001
65
Grey Race
Feb 26th 2001
73
      Pardon me
Feb 26th 2001
75
           RE: Pardon me
Feb 26th 2001
76
                You've convinced me
Feb 26th 2001
77
See my "Damn" post below...
Feb 26th 2001
66
      Excuse me, I'm tripping...
Feb 26th 2001
68
RE: It's not that complicated.....it should be that simple
Feb 26th 2001
81
All I gotta say is...
Wise_7
Feb 26th 2001
67
People...
Feb 26th 2001
74
*sigh*
Feb 26th 2001
78
Some info and thoughts on race
cocopuffs68
Feb 27th 2001
83
You people are sad.
Feb 27th 2001
84
wait a minute
Feb 27th 2001
88
RE: Interracial Luv
Feb 26th 2001
82
IMPORTANT
Feb 27th 2001
86
RE: IMPORTANT
Feb 27th 2001
89
see 'I'm saying'
Feb 27th 2001
92
if you take away "race"
Feb 27th 2001
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      I'm saying
Feb 27th 2001
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           that's true-
Feb 27th 2001
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           RE: that's true-
Feb 27th 2001
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                RE: that's true-
Feb 27th 2001
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                     RE: that's true-
Feb 27th 2001
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                     Finally someone that can read...
Feb 27th 2001
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                          RE: Finally someone that can read...
Feb 27th 2001
100
                          feelin you on this
Feb 28th 2001
104
                          RE: oh dear
Feb 28th 2001
106
                     I love you
Feb 27th 2001
98
                     my pre-reply
Feb 28th 2001
101
                          more props...
Feb 28th 2001
105
                     RE: that's true-
Feb 27th 2001
99
           got u n/m
Feb 28th 2001
103

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