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Just one more thing to consider:

My wife is reading this book called Hottentot Venus (warning: what i am about to describe is very disturbing). It is a historical novel based on a very true and historically accurate event about the Khoikhoi (there are many spellings) peoples of what is now called South Africa. The story is set in the 18th century, and is about a Khoikhoi girl who was taken from her homeland by the first Dutch "visitors" (this is before they "settled" and established a "colony") and placed in the custody of the government as a "specimen" of the so-called savages that they found in Africa. She was placed in museums, freak shows, and circuses inside a glass cage as a display for rich white people to observe and talk about at tea parties and such. They had her chained up, and she basically lived her whole life like this. Her bones were recently returned to South Africa just a few years ago. whew!!! okay onto my point:

In the very first chapter there is detailed account of the Khoikhoi's use of weed. The name they use is "daga." They used it the context of spiritual ritual, and as means of gaining closer contact with divine forces. I say all this to say that we, as black folks, completely have forgotten a few things:

1) herb grows natural on our homeland
2) it has been historically proven that it has been used for thousands of years by our people, and has shown up in the historical record of most of our major civilizations, including the great kingdoms of Egypt, Mali, and Songhay.
3) we also have seen it used under many contexts including spiritually, medicinally, and recreationally (our defintion of recreation doesn't completely capture this use, however.)

so the question is: has herb contributed to our downfall? or has it been a long series of tumultuous events that have lead us into misunderstanding of our own cultural past, hence the improper usage of herb? for example, where did we learn to put herb into chemically saturated cigar paper? why does the paper have so many chemicals to begin with? who keeps cigar companies in business? why do they make choclate flavored phillies nowadays?

just some food for thought...

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------- SMOKING WEED = ENEMY OF BLACK PROGRESSION? ---- [View all] , Jaye Swigga, Tue Mar-16-04 05:54 PM
 
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its not so much the smoking it as it is the process of.
Mar 16th 2004
1
yes. that too. but, I'd really like to try to focus
Mar 17th 2004
6
It's not totally harmless of course
Mar 17th 2004
2
I don't know....
Mar 17th 2004
4
RE: ------- SMOKING WEED = ENEMY OF BLACK PROGRESSION?
Mar 17th 2004
3
dunno. guess I could talk about that in the next
Mar 17th 2004
5
Paging Bartek, Bartek you are requested in Activist
Mar 17th 2004
7
good case study, I think; and, very well
Mar 17th 2004
8
      RE: good case study, I think; and, very well
Mar 18th 2004
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           RE: Hearing you, loud and clear!
Mar 18th 2004
16
I feel where your coming from
Mar 17th 2004
9
Different strokes for different folks
Mar 18th 2004
10
Also, name me something that is harmless
Mar 18th 2004
11
Meditation
Apr 11th 2004
39
      But...
Apr 26th 2004
57
RE: ------- SMOKING WEED = ENEMY OF BLACK PROGRESSION?
Mar 18th 2004
13
I 2 have been smoking since I was 12...
Mar 18th 2004
14
Stupid question
Mar 18th 2004
15
RE: Stupid question
Mar 19th 2004
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RE: ------- SMOKING WEED = ENEMY OF BLACK PROGRESSION?
Mar 18th 2004
17
you know what? you actually helped me realise
Mar 18th 2004
18
blame.
Mar 18th 2004
19
oh,
Mar 18th 2004
20
No.
Mar 18th 2004
21
define 'progression'....
Mar 19th 2004
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RE: define 'progression'....
Mar 19th 2004
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RE: ------- SMOKING WEED = ENEMY OF BLACK PROGRESSION?
Mar 19th 2004
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Amplification....
Mar 19th 2004
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RE: ------- SMOKING WEED = ENEMY OF BLACK PROGRESSION?
Mar 19th 2004
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Weed Smokers: Lend me your advice please!!!
Mar 19th 2004
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Smoke dro only!
Mar 19th 2004
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      RE: Smoke dro only!
Mar 20th 2004
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           RE: Smoke dro only!
Apr 26th 2004
54
why herb?
Mar 19th 2004
30
why not?
Mar 20th 2004
34
Isn't Pacification part of the Ras Tafari lifestyle?
Mar 20th 2004
33
? nm
Apr 24th 2004
49
like just about everything
Mar 22nd 2004
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that is actually a good point EXCEPT that if
Mar 31st 2004
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RE: ------- SMOKING WEED = ENEMY OF BLACK PROGRESSION?
Apr 11th 2004
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i was told this in middle school
Apr 11th 2004
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There are a lot of things...
Apr 11th 2004
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RE: There are a lot of things...
Apr 12th 2004
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      Well
Apr 12th 2004
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           RE: Well
Apr 12th 2004
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                myth
Apr 12th 2004
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                RE: Well
Apr 12th 2004
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                     RE: Well
Apr 26th 2004
55
I understand your debate, but I have to say this...
Apr 12th 2004
45
my question, which I dont think that I made very
Apr 24th 2004
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      RE: my question, which I dont think that I made very
Apr 24th 2004
50
      I don't believe it's about the weed...
Apr 27th 2004
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RETURN TO BABYLON
Apr 12th 2004
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First of all, what did I tell you about this:--------sw
Apr 25th 2004
51
I'm gonna stay clean for life.
Apr 25th 2004
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i have questions
Apr 26th 2004
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PERSONAL AND TRUE
Apr 26th 2004
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RE: PERSONAL AND TRUE
Apr 27th 2004
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