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50. "trivialization"
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you're still trivializing the ambition needed to GO to college and to graduate ...

and i'm not talking about some well off family that's had a long history of college, i'm talking abotu my view as a person who has had to struggle to work in the 12 years leading up to college, and has been working my ass off in college


>well, I see finishing college not
>so much as an ambition
>thing, but a follow through
>thing. yeah, it takes hard
>work and dedication to finish,
>but college is still pretty
>much a "charted route", whereas
>someone who doesnt go to
>college has to shuffle their
>cards, and be a lil
>more creative and ambitious to
>find the avenues that lead
>to personal success.

not true. do you have any idea how many people drop out and/or are kicked out of college, especially in the african american community? there was a time at brown university when 1/4 of trhe african american male population was at least on serious warning (meaning one more fuck up and you're out). don't get it twisted, it is a bitch to finish college, especially when it's so easy to just leave and stil make it in life

>
>my aunt for instance. she aint
>go to college, but she
>shook shit up till she
>owned her own beauty parlor
>and was able to be
>self employed...that is ambition.
>
>then you got my uncle, he
>went to college, finished with
>very lil ambition,like "whada fucc
>do I do now?" and
>ended up gettin in some
>shit.

well i'm sorry that happened for your uncle, but you need ambition to make it IN college as well as out of it. not everyone in college takes full advantage of its opportunity, just like not everyone not in college takes full advantage of certain things. in short, it depends on the person ... your aunt would have been succesfful if she went to college cause of her ambition, and your uncle most likely would have failed even if he didnt go to school

>
>its like, your trained to go
>to school for the first
>20-somethin years of ya life,
>so thats all you know.

guess what? not everyone is. there are people that work their ass off even though they don't have to (read: a good chunk of the minority population that attends college)

>should you choose to go
>to college and finish, you
>simply continue on the route
>set for you. if you
>decide to stray, in order
>to be successful, you must
>have genuine AMBITION AND DRIVE....
>
>
>hope I made my previous ignant
>ass statement a lil clearer.

not really.

i don't agree with this oppositiion that you are creating. i place more emphasis on the person, not the situation. thus, someone like your aunt will find a way no matter what, while your uncle wouldnt


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Why don't Black kids go to college? [View all] , loryn, Mon Apr-30-01 07:05 PM
 
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Plain and simple
Apr 30th 2001
1
Not so plain, but kinda simple....
dobiewonk
May 01st 2001
12
      hold on
May 01st 2001
13
      RE: hold on
dobiewonk
May 01st 2001
16
      RE: hold on
May 02nd 2001
36
           RE: hold on
dobiewonk
May 04th 2001
47
      I don't know....
May 02nd 2001
37
           RE: I don't know....
May 03rd 2001
44
      Back when I was in school, we walked 4 hours in the snow..........
dobiewonk
May 01st 2001
14
           So you must know Jerwayne Ellis!
May 01st 2001
22
couple reasons
May 01st 2001
2
good point:
May 01st 2001
7
RE: couple reasons
May 01st 2001
8
RE: couple reasons
May 01st 2001
9
      of course....
May 01st 2001
21
No shit.
May 04th 2001
49
Money, Cash, hoes.....
May 01st 2001
3
RE: Money, Cash, hoes.....
May 01st 2001
4
      RE: Money, Cash, hoes.....
May 01st 2001
28
      It's simple
May 02nd 2001
38
      RE: Money, Cash, hoes.....
msm200
May 02nd 2001
42
Maybe a another question is...
May 01st 2001
5
and yet another question is
dobiewonk
May 01st 2001
15
      RE: and yet another question is
msm200
May 02nd 2001
43
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college?
May 01st 2001
6
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college?
ladyt277
May 01st 2001
11
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college?
May 01st 2001
10
Additional input
ladyt277
May 01st 2001
17
      RE: Additional input
dobiewonk
May 01st 2001
18
      In fact
May 02nd 2001
39
      i don't understand
May 02nd 2001
40
      RE: i don't understand
dobiewonk
May 04th 2001
46
          
                RE: trivialization
dobiewonk
May 07th 2001
51
      WHAT?!
May 02nd 2001
41
      who does more..
May 01st 2001
19
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college?
musha
May 01st 2001
20
it's not for everyone
May 01st 2001
23
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college?
May 01st 2001
24
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college? --Answers
ladyt277
May 02nd 2001
30
--Answers
ladyt277
May 02nd 2001
31
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college?
dobiewonk
May 02nd 2001
33
lowered expectations, maybe?
May 01st 2001
25
yeah
May 01st 2001
27
I'm not sure about this
May 01st 2001
26
RE: I'm not sure about this
May 01st 2001
29
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college?
May 02nd 2001
32
RE: Why don't Black kids go to college?
dobiewonk
May 02nd 2001
34
      do the hustle
May 02nd 2001
35
Here's the truth
May 03rd 2001
45
BASTA!!!!
Wise_7
May 04th 2001
48

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