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52. "mostly agree..."
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...and your knowledge of economics is valuable (I know I've learned a few things here & there), but...


>I don't owe you shit...if I
>owe anyone, I owe the
>people who died to get
>me the rights I have
>now. The Same rights you
>enjoy, what I do with
>those rights is my Business.
>I earned everything I have
>and you had NOTHING to
>do with it. In Honor
>of those before me, I
>should do something for the
>less fortunate as well. But
>it's something I should do......it's
>not a debt.
>
>Unless you helped me Build what
>I have, unless your support
>made it possible.......I don't owe
>you got a damn thing.
>This is what irks me,
>successful Blacks who rise out
>of the Ghetto or ones
>that were Born middle class
>like myself......build their lives with
>the help of their families
>(and a few others) and
>with their own hardwork and
>sweat. Then folks in the
>"community" who didn't contribute a
>damn thing, want to take
>credit for and start talking
>about what they're owed.

you turned me off a little here. I think there's a medium between feeling like you owe the community (or the community wanting to suck u dry) and the thinking you expressed here.

You're right in that we have to educate people to perpetuate these kinds of gains for themselves. We don't know enough about economics. But at the same time, in order to uplift when and where we can, sacrifices need to be made.

And for each one of us who makes it, there are 3 more that die on the streets. Three more who died without making it. Without knowing what I know or having the opportunities I had. I think that needs to change, and that will only change when we feel some sense of obligation.

Yes, the community needs to learn to do for self. No, we should not feel that everyone who "makes it" owes us a piece of the pie, per se. But you sometimes have to look at history. Who/What taught us to look for a savior? Why do we think we're owed? Why are we in the economic/educational bind we're in?

None of that started overnight.



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Fuck Athletes.... [View all] , DivineVersatile, Fri May-11-01 04:22 AM
 
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using that logic
May 11th 2001
1
addendum/caveat
May 11th 2001
2
true, true n/m
May 14th 2001
48
ToO mUcH lIkE rIgHt...
May 11th 2001
3
Stop judging
May 11th 2001
4
      Bullshit...
May 11th 2001
5
           And in addition...
May 11th 2001
9
           6 years ago in brooklyn
May 11th 2001
22
You really should check
May 11th 2001
6
None of ur concern
MrIdontgiveafuckalupugus
May 11th 2001
7
Yes it is my concern...
May 11th 2001
10
      RE: Yes it is my concern...
MrIdontgiveafuckalupugus
May 11th 2001
20
      That wasn't directed at you.
May 11th 2001
21
      RE: Yes it is my concern...
May 11th 2001
28
           See what you get?
May 11th 2001
31
Fine Line(s)
May 11th 2001
8
good point
May 14th 2001
51
fuck socialist rhetoric
May 11th 2001
11
but...
May 11th 2001
13
      TOUCHE Monsieur Pussycat!!
May 11th 2001
18
      RE: but...
May 11th 2001
19
      from each... to each...
May 11th 2001
23
           you're smarter than this
May 11th 2001
24
                No, you're smarter than that.
May 11th 2001
25
                     Laying it thick?
May 11th 2001
27
                     responding in kind
May 11th 2001
30
                          What's wrong with Left...
May 11th 2001
32
                               RE: What's wrong with Left...
May 11th 2001
34
                     bullshit
May 11th 2001
35
                          do you people even know
May 11th 2001
37
                               you asked for it, punk
May 11th 2001
38
                                    dumbass
May 11th 2001
39
                                         okay benji
May 11th 2001
40
                                              It's amazing
May 12th 2001
41
                                                   first of all...
May 12th 2001
42
                                                        cool, man
May 12th 2001
43
                                                             and believe me
May 12th 2001
44
damn
May 11th 2001
12
was thinking
May 11th 2001
14
Finally!!
May 11th 2001
16
9 mil out of 10 mil...
May 14th 2001
56
RE: Fuck Athletes....
tresmyman
May 11th 2001
15
I said "Fuck Atheletes"
May 11th 2001
17
      RE: I said "Fuck Atheletes"
tresmyman
May 14th 2001
49
      RE: I said "Fuck Atheletes"
necromancer1300
May 16th 2001
65
RE: Fuck Athletes....
May 11th 2001
26
Bullshit, bullshit....
May 11th 2001
29
      A lesson in economics is in order
May 11th 2001
33
           I'm not replying...
May 11th 2001
36
           One would tend to agree
May 14th 2001
50
                Agreed.
May 14th 2001
59
          
                RE: mostly agree...
May 14th 2001
58
                     felt n/m
May 15th 2001
62
Still no black bank.
May 14th 2001
45
What??
May 14th 2001
46
2 much like
May 14th 2001
47
      Yep!!!!!!
May 14th 2001
53
           Seaway came to mind.
May 14th 2001
54
United Bank
May 14th 2001
55
      RE: United Bank
May 14th 2001
57
           Damn shame
May 14th 2001
60
                RE: Damn shame
May 14th 2001
61
                     Citizen Trust
May 15th 2001
63
                          No Argument here....
May 15th 2001
64

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