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>>.....http://www.answering-islam.org, is that where you got >>this info from? > >Responce: Nope,I have access to a >Christial library that contains about >14,000 books on every thing >you can imagin dealing with >theolgy.
well, i found his book, Christians Ask Muslims, in that site. and based on my observation and reading of his passage in his book about free will in islam, i have come to the conclusion that his conclusion (determinism) is not based on what the majority of orthodox muslims believe, but based on what the different dissenting sects from islam believe.
question: if i take the statements of jehovah's witnesses, catholics, russian eastern orthodox, armenian christians, and try to apply them to what you believe (whatever your denomination is), does that mean they are reflective and conclusive of your beliefs?
no.
well, this is what mr. nehls did. he quoted several sectarian sources such as: asharians, mutazilites, jabrians, zabariyas, qadriyas, sufis. and to be honest, if we had that much in common, why are we labeled different? those above mentioned groups donot share the same views as those who follow the sunnah (ways, practices) of prophet muhammad, commonly known to most as orthodox or sunni.
he quotes several unknown sources: Risaleh-i-Barkhavi , Al-Barkhawi (these two could be one in the same, may be a typo. but neither are not listed in his biography) he quotes questionable scholars: which "Al Ghazali"? -depending on which one he quotes (not in his biography, so we dont know), he might be sufi, or orthodox.
he makes points of of statements like this: "A certain Islamic scholar put it in these words: "The word originally used in the Quran must have had a different meaning in that day, which we cannot really understand today. Nevertheless, we must continue to use the word, because we can not change the words of the Quran." " who is the scholar? sounds flagrant to me. might clear up a whole lot if we knew who he was. he might or might have beliefs and practices that are not of prophet muhammad's.
and like this: "A Hadis reports: "Two men in a village died, one had concern for Allah, not the other. The village Imam saw the pious in hell and the unrighteous with wine houris in Paradise. When the pious complained about this obvious injustice, Allah replied: 'Be silent! Have I not the right to do as I please with what is my own?'" " what hadis? where is it? in which book? so how can we take it seriously, if we cant even reference it?
also, he refers to hadis, some of which are authentic (al bukhari and muslim) and some of which may or may not be (mishkat, abu dawud, tirmizi). so basically, if he is able to make a conclusive point of of daief (weak) or maudoo (fabricated) hadis, what does that say about the point? it holds no weight, b/c i was based on other than the truth.
in the concluding section of his book: http://answering-islam.org/Nehls/Ask/conclude.html , he says:
"We must point out again, that this book does not intend to give a balanced view of the Quran, Mohammed or Islam. It is merely trying to present the other side--the one that is not known to most Muslims."
i must mention that the reason that the "other side" is not known to "most muslims", b/c "most muslims" are not a part of those sects that he referred to in his book. most are part of the way of prophet muhammad (orthodox). hence, the lack of knowing about the" other side". the main reason why i was and am still dissagreeing w/ you about the matter of free will in islam.
and until you can find some resources that are related in faith, practice, etc..to that of the majority of the muslim body, you will have a false view of what the orthodox muslims believe.
to sum it up,...... what you are saying and quoting is not a correct view of free will in orthodox islam, b/c you are quoting from a source that has based his conclusion on the practices of those that are not orthodox, and are repeating what you are reading. if you would like a correct view of free will in islam (orthodox, that is), go to the "al qadaa wal qadar" thread.
other than that, believe what you want, and say what you want.
who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography: http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/
Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife): The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.
subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).
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