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I am glad someone posted at least abit positive about this. Since im a 17 year old white european (norway, a small unaware rich country)i try to learn about the world. And okayplayers has taught me much, about africa, african americans, hiphop, that not just my dad reads Tao and Zen, much more..

My mother says you should know as many sides to a case as you can before you tell your opinion. And i'm proud to see common doing the same as my father: studying Tao, Zen, the bible!

(Seing common live last friday was an experience for life! It hit me in the heart to see him there with a che guevarra t-shirt making the crowd (most white, some black, some latino) go "people unite" and freestyling about how hiphop builds and unites. A black boy and a white boy in front of me grabbed their hands and raisted it into the air, with common doing the same! Picture that..)

The title for this thread was "is hiphop for africa????". American hiphop? nah, bullshit. 99% is either too underground (talking about the endless struggle) or too overground (talking about the endless fields of cash and babes).

But common.. talib... mos def... the roots... Their music can reach much further out than the majority. Since common could touch the people of norway (both black and white, as if it should matter), i believe he can touch the people of africa. Senegal, Tanzania, South Africa.. Because he is global, his music is. Even just seeing DJ Dummy scratch like a dummy and then seeing common bring a girl to the stage to have her sing The light with him, i believe it will work on all continents. His message was "unite", forget about differences, and just get down to hiphop. From common's viewpoint he brings global music, just like bob marley is global.

His music can appeal to a chineese girl, a tanzanian boy, my norwegian father, a breaker from chile and an australian hiphop head.

I hope common acts the way he did in norway when he gets home to chicago/ny, that his unite-message just isnt for us. Norway has never had the slavery, africans that lives in norway are pretty african (not adopted kids, which is different), the latinos latino. In USA you have a difficult situation.

(An african man who stood in front of me reminded me of how you seem to be -from what i read in this thread- (a compliment). First he acted very intelligent (almost too much) and looked strange at those who freaked out 'too much'. He didnt smile but stood still with his hands folded and enjoyed common with closed eyes. Eventually he started clapping. In the end, thou, he danced like all others.. wild! He even smiled It took a while thou. That is a certain african type... But he did enjoy common.)

>They choose to ignore
>lessons in love that Africans
>seem to be so good
>at (both in the way
>we relate with each other
>-who else calls you brother/sister,
>regardless of where you're from?)

Yes.. true, but not all. You forgot that your africa has different types in different places. Different people. Some people are dead serious, never smile. Some always smiling. There is the people who dont take marriage seriously, and those who do. Those who smoke tobacco and just live life, and those who respect the traditions of islam. Those who want to join the western world and those who hate it and want to follow their traditions.

But.. yep, africa is known as the continent of smiles, no? It is partly wrong, since it is so variated. There will never be a true continent of smiles, a country perhaps, but a continent?

You can say the continent of life..! i get along with that one..

>This has been long, but my
>aim was to use OKplayer
>to stimulate fruitfull discussion on
>matters that affect Africans as
>well. There seem to be
>so many of you so
>well informed. Lets learn from
>each other as well as
>the rest of the world.

I like that, and i try to do that as well. I hope i wont give the only to reply to this thread. Africans, americans.. i'm sure many has more than me to say.

peace


Here goes my first sig common's been on my mind since my first okp concert. Cee-lo as well, thanks to this:

"You gon surely find there's no positivity without negativity
But one side you gonna have to choose
Any chance to speak I refuse to misuse
So how can you call yourself God when you let a worldly possession
become an obsession and the way you write your rhymes and
Can't follow your lesson
If a seed's sown, you make sure it's known, you make sure it's grown
If you God, then save your own, don't mentally enslave your own
If you God, then save your own, don't mentally enslave your own
If you God, then save your own, don't mentally enslave your own" g.o.d.

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Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans [View all] , 5th, Mon Jul-09-01 02:53 AM
 
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My badd
Jul 09th 2001
1
Support appreciated:
Jul 09th 2001
3
      RE: Support appreciated:
Jul 10th 2001
11
           one thing i agree completely with yall on
Jul 10th 2001
13
                True..
Jul 10th 2001
21
No
Jul 09th 2001
4
What??
Jul 09th 2001
6
RE: What??
Jul 10th 2001
7
      RE: What??
Jul 10th 2001
8
           RE: What??
Jul 11th 2001
25
                Nuff of that too!!
Jul 11th 2001
26
                     RE: Nuff of that too!!
Jul 11th 2001
27
no, no, no.......
Jul 10th 2001
23
new zealand?
Jul 11th 2001
31
      ahhh... actually, yes you do.
Jul 11th 2001
50
True but,
Jul 11th 2001
51
      I agree.
Jul 12th 2001
54
           that is true
Jul 12th 2001
55
                as a european
Jul 12th 2001
56
                     damn it
Jul 13th 2001
67
                          yeah bro....
Jul 16th 2001
75
RE: Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans
Dyskotek
Jul 09th 2001
5
...
Jul 10th 2001
9
      Africans dont like African Americans....
Dyskotek
Jul 10th 2001
10
           depends
Jul 10th 2001
12
           RE: depends
Jul 10th 2001
16
           saw this a lot @ school
Jul 11th 2001
34
           What's there to like about
Jul 10th 2001
14
                tryna start sumthin?
Jul 10th 2001
15
                on 2nd thought
Jul 10th 2001
18
                     I
Jul 10th 2001
19
                          this man
Jul 10th 2001
20
                               What?!
Jul 10th 2001
22
                                    RE: What?!
Jul 11th 2001
24
                                         oh yeh
Jul 11th 2001
41
                here we go
Jul 10th 2001
17
                ...then hear this:
Jul 11th 2001
28
                     thing is
Jul 11th 2001
42
                     ...
Jul 11th 2001
47
                          If you noticed
Jul 12th 2001
60
                     I AM dealing with Americans
Jul 12th 2001
57
                          you make some sense here
Jul 12th 2001
63
                               my 2 cents worth
Jul 12th 2001
64
                               I know about the tension
Jul 12th 2001
65
                                    hahahhahahaa
utamaroho
Jul 12th 2001
66
                                    RE: I know about the tension
Jul 13th 2001
69
                                         OK
Jul 14th 2001
71
                                              understood n/m
Jul 16th 2001
72
                RE: What's there to like about
Jul 11th 2001
29
                Solarus and Rhulah....
Dyskotek
Jul 11th 2001
44
                     Especially for you
Jul 12th 2001
59
                RE: What's there to like about
Jul 11th 2001
30
                Excuse me for being a little dumb...
Jul 11th 2001
33
                     RE: Excuse me for being a little dumb...
chandra
Jul 11th 2001
37
                RE: What's there to like about
Jul 11th 2001
38
                     that's very true
Jul 11th 2001
43
check this site:
Jul 11th 2001
32
RE: check this site:
Jul 11th 2001
35
RE: Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans
chandra
Jul 11th 2001
36
No
Jul 11th 2001
39
      RE: No
Jul 11th 2001
40
      it's not basketball
Jul 11th 2001
46
           i am sorry
Jul 11th 2001
48
                Um
Jul 13th 2001
70
      Africans aren't black folks?
Jul 13th 2001
68
RE: Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans
jboogiebrown
Jul 11th 2001
45
Solarus is not even real
Jul 11th 2001
49
Naw
Jul 11th 2001
52
RE: Naw
Dyskotek
Jul 12th 2001
53
As "real" as they come
Jul 12th 2001
58
      okay but
Jul 12th 2001
61
      Listen to the Ancestors...
utamaroho
Jul 12th 2001
62
hip hop is
Jul 16th 2001
73
RE: hip hop is
Jul 16th 2001
74

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