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"Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans"


          

All the posting about ppl "not wanting to be black" or labeled African American & not wanting it got me thinking maybe 'melanated-American' would be easier for Speakeasy to handle. On that path we'd soon have 'melanatedly-challenged' as a disability category too. Stupid Fool!

I have to take a strong stand on that because it's an issue that bugs me repeatedly. So much effort is spent on these boards discussing racial matters -permanent things which will never change. What we should be discussing is WAYS of effecting CHANGE in peoples attitudes towards race & race relations.

America is not a home for black people. That has been proven time & again. Wont Americans accept it??? There will never be no reparations to a Black man. There have been official apologies and compensation to former wartime enemies (over tactics used in warfare, atrocious as they were it was still war.) Does war have rules? are there rules when you choose to kill someone? There have been compensatory payments to Jews and their families after the holocaust. Damn, America even went as far as helping them establish a homeland in the middle of Arabia (sic) hence the middle east continues to bubble to this day. But not to the black man. Even after a govt promise of 40 acres and mule. Even after watching communities disintergrate. Kids shooting each other on the streets. Police shooting black men on the streets. what more do you need to tell you that aint your home, homeboy.

It's also too late to move anywhere else. Ya'll would'nt want to anyway. Those who would will have a tough time adjusting to the ways of life, the lack of taken-for-granted ammenities, poor infrastructure and general poverty that affects the continent (I'm talking of the region South of the Sahara cuz we all know Libya, Morocco & Egypt are now in the Middle East)

And through all that, Most Afric...sorry, melanated americans look down on Africans too. Cuz we dont speak the same english. We're darker with thicker lips, dont dress the same way or have the same values as Americans. Unless Black America also creates a nation for yourselves -as the Jews did, and populate it with your selves so you wont have to be the only black person in a waiting room or walk in fear of being pelted with a beer bottle from a passing car, then thou shalt always be oppressed.

Sometimes i think it's blacks & not jews that are the chosen people in scripture. Maybe the jews (who kept those damn records anyway) altered something. Why u ask? Cuz look around you!! Which peoples are the most opressed wherever they may be? Hell, were even opressed with poverty & underdevelopment at home. What causes that i wonder? Do i hear free-&-equal-trade being discussed at G8 conventions? nooo, never. But where do they get all those diamonds & gold from? And how come since colonialism those places are politically unstable to this day. Ever heard of the Mobutu-CIA connection? Ever wonder why?
Nigeria (oil producing nation by the way) the number of different leaders its had in the past 10 years compared to the number of elections is a joke.

Most of these problems are our own. The greed and lack of vision our leaders display. And the difficulties of uniting. Look everywhere else and you find united nations. America is a unity of states. Europe has also caught on and is desperately trying to unite. There are different economic communities world-wide including in Africa that dont really work but serve as a beginning for stronger unity. East Africa attempted to unite very early in the game but disintergrated after 10 years (in 1977) I wont go into the reasons here. The few visionaries we had were either assasinated (Kwame Nkrumah) had their legs pulled from under them by economic conditions including forced liberalization (J. Nyerere), or got frustrated and joined the mainstream of globally powerless African leaders (Chiluba, Mugabe etc.) Now it all about greed, see the mess that followed Kabila Sr.'s death.

I am African, born & raised, strong, intelligent & proud of who i am period. The people and ways of life i represent show through my everyday actions and in the way i relate to everyone, including white people. There's nothing wrong with embracing some elements of European and even Asian culture because there is essentially much to learn from other cultures. It's how civilizations emerged in the first place, by trading and learning from each other. Besides music, what else has the world learned from Africa? They choose to ignore lessons in love that Africans seem to be so good at (both in the way we relate with each other -who else calls you brother/sister, regardless of where you're from?) I wont elaborate on the other. (See i do have a sense of humour, bad as it is).

This has been long, but my aim was to use OKplayer to stimulate fruitfull discussion on matters that affect Africans as well. There seem to be so many of you so well informed. Lets learn from each other as well as the rest of the world.

  

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Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans [View all] , 5th, Mon Jul-09-01 02:53 AM
 
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My badd
Jul 09th 2001
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RE: Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans
Jul 09th 2001
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Support appreciated:
Jul 09th 2001
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      RE: Support appreciated:
Jul 10th 2001
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           one thing i agree completely with yall on
Jul 10th 2001
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                True..
Jul 10th 2001
21
No
Jul 09th 2001
4
What??
Jul 09th 2001
6
RE: What??
Jul 10th 2001
7
      RE: What??
Jul 10th 2001
8
           RE: What??
Jul 11th 2001
25
                Nuff of that too!!
Jul 11th 2001
26
                     RE: Nuff of that too!!
Jul 11th 2001
27
no, no, no.......
Jul 10th 2001
23
new zealand?
Jul 11th 2001
31
      ahhh... actually, yes you do.
Jul 11th 2001
50
True but,
Jul 11th 2001
51
      I agree.
Jul 12th 2001
54
           that is true
Jul 12th 2001
55
                as a european
Jul 12th 2001
56
                     damn it
Jul 13th 2001
67
                          yeah bro....
Jul 16th 2001
75
RE: Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans
Dyskotek
Jul 09th 2001
5
...
Jul 10th 2001
9
      Africans dont like African Americans....
Dyskotek
Jul 10th 2001
10
           depends
Jul 10th 2001
12
           RE: depends
Jul 10th 2001
16
           saw this a lot @ school
Jul 11th 2001
34
           What's there to like about
Jul 10th 2001
14
                tryna start sumthin?
Jul 10th 2001
15
                on 2nd thought
Jul 10th 2001
18
                     I
Jul 10th 2001
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                          this man
Jul 10th 2001
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                               What?!
Jul 10th 2001
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                                    RE: What?!
Jul 11th 2001
24
                                         oh yeh
Jul 11th 2001
41
                here we go
Jul 10th 2001
17
                ...then hear this:
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                     thing is
Jul 11th 2001
42
                     ...
Jul 11th 2001
47
                          If you noticed
Jul 12th 2001
60
                     I AM dealing with Americans
Jul 12th 2001
57
                          you make some sense here
Jul 12th 2001
63
                               my 2 cents worth
Jul 12th 2001
64
                               I know about the tension
Jul 12th 2001
65
                                    hahahhahahaa
utamaroho
Jul 12th 2001
66
                                    RE: I know about the tension
Jul 13th 2001
69
                                         OK
Jul 14th 2001
71
                                              understood n/m
Jul 16th 2001
72
                RE: What's there to like about
Jul 11th 2001
29
                Solarus and Rhulah....
Dyskotek
Jul 11th 2001
44
                     Especially for you
Jul 12th 2001
59
                RE: What's there to like about
Jul 11th 2001
30
                Excuse me for being a little dumb...
Jul 11th 2001
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                     RE: Excuse me for being a little dumb...
chandra
Jul 11th 2001
37
                RE: What's there to like about
Jul 11th 2001
38
                     that's very true
Jul 11th 2001
43
check this site:
Jul 11th 2001
32
RE: check this site:
Jul 11th 2001
35
RE: Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans
chandra
Jul 11th 2001
36
No
Jul 11th 2001
39
      RE: No
Jul 11th 2001
40
      it's not basketball
Jul 11th 2001
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           i am sorry
Jul 11th 2001
48
                Um
Jul 13th 2001
70
      Africans aren't black folks?
Jul 13th 2001
68
RE: Is Hip Hop for Africa??? for Africans
jboogiebrown
Jul 11th 2001
45
Solarus is not even real
Jul 11th 2001
49
Naw
Jul 11th 2001
52
RE: Naw
Dyskotek
Jul 12th 2001
53
As "real" as they come
Jul 12th 2001
58
      okay but
Jul 12th 2001
61
      Listen to the Ancestors...
utamaroho
Jul 12th 2001
62
hip hop is
Jul 16th 2001
73
RE: hip hop is
Jul 16th 2001
74

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