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20. "Given the fact"
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>
>Or even disrespect these people's traditions...
>
>
>But considering none of us live
>in Ghana and we have
>an AIDS problem right here
>in America.....
>
>.....and with respect to developing a
>solution that is adaptable to
>multiple cultures and people.......
>
that u haven't been thru the inititation how do u know that it DOESN'T do the following?
>....wouldn't it be a better idea
>to teach young MEN and
>WOMEN to love their bodies,
>not let people disrespect their
>bodies, teach them about sex
>with respect to the physical
>act and how to deal
>with on an emotional level,
>teach them to be comfortable
>with sex,
>


as far as this goes,

>teach them about
>sexually transmitted diseases and how
>to make intelligent, rational decisions
>about sex and potential sex
>partners?

there are no potential "sexual partners" b/c in non-western cultures, that's not the way ppl operate. not in terms of "sexual partners" but in terms of life partners.


>I have no problems with people
>teaching their kids abstinance, but
>(In my experience) that usually
>leads to sexually repressed adults
>who have little knowledge about
>sex itself, diseases, birth control
>methods (Important to married couples),
>and how to make intelligent
>decisions about sex and partners.


please expound on this for me: tell me how i would recognize a "sexually repressed adult?" remember traditional rites of passage are a little more than your sex education class. AND if this works for Muslims and Hindus (the ones that i know) this idea of no "partners" but a spouse, y can't this work for the average joe who wants it to work? don't we have rites of passage programs? couldn't these be used to do something similar?

>
>When you've known women who've gotten
>HIV and other SDS from
>their Husbands, women who "waited"
>for marriage, but weren't equipped
>with the information to make
>intelligent choices about sex....you get
>jaded.

ok, tell me what "intelligent choice" u should make about sex when it comes to your spouse?

>I like the sound Dipo, but
>it seems to leave out
>key information (to me) that
>could bit the child in
>the ass later on in
>life...


again u can't really know what info is being left out or included, unless u go thru the initiation yourself.

>Waiting until you're ready to have
>sex with the right person,
>is 10000x more important (IMHO),
>then merely waiting for marriage
>to protect the dignity of
>the family.

who is the "right" person? what does that mean exactly? i'm sure ppl who have several "partners" are ready to have sex w/ each "right" person.

>
>Just my opinion......
>
>
>
>Peace,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>M2


Shemhotep
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African AIDS Prevention [View all] , kemetian, Tue Jan-22-02 10:31 AM
 
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Good article
Jan 22nd 2002
1
interesting.
Jan 22nd 2002
2
oh u shd know me better than that
Jan 22nd 2002
3
      true. i was on some click
Jan 22nd 2002
4
           My uncle's a psychiatrist
Jan 22nd 2002
5
^
Jan 23rd 2002
6
swaziland
Jan 23rd 2002
7
two links about it
Jan 23rd 2002
8
      good looking out!
Jan 23rd 2002
9
           RE:Good looking out
Jan 24th 2002
10
           its a good post
Jan 24th 2002
11
                RE: its a good post???
Jan 28th 2002
13
                     Why not?
Jan 30th 2002
14
                          RE: Why not?
Jan 30th 2002
16
                               RE: Why not?
Jan 30th 2002
18
^
Jan 28th 2002
12
Not to sound Daft......
Jan 30th 2002
15
RE: Not to sound Daft......
Jan 30th 2002
17
i want to play the devils advocate...:
Jan 30th 2002
19
      RE: i want to play the devils advocate...:
Jan 31st 2002
21
           devils advocate:
Jan 31st 2002
22
                we r looking at it differently
Feb 01st 2002
30
                     RE: we r looking at it differently
Feb 02nd 2002
36
prostitutes
Jan 31st 2002
23
RE: prostitutes
Jan 31st 2002
24
      tell me your stories
Jan 31st 2002
25
           i've completely gone off of the topic
Jan 31st 2002
26
                RE: i've completely gone off of the topic
Jan 31st 2002
27
                     well let's see
Feb 01st 2002
31
RE: Given the fact
Jan 31st 2002
28
      i'm really interested in this idea
Feb 01st 2002
29
      i'm not convinced
RevUrb
Feb 01st 2002
32
      RE: i'm not convinced
Feb 01st 2002
33
      RE: i'm not convinced
Feb 02nd 2002
38
           RE: i'm not convinced
Feb 03rd 2002
39
                RE: i'm not convinced
Feb 03rd 2002
42
                     RE: i'm not convinced
Feb 04th 2002
46
                          RE: i'm not convinced
Feb 04th 2002
47
                               ain't no need to get to raising caps
Feb 04th 2002
54
      RE: i'm really interested in this idea
Feb 02nd 2002
37
      RE:EXACTLY
Feb 01st 2002
35
so in your experience
Feb 03rd 2002
41
      RE: so in your experience
Feb 03rd 2002
43
           do you think...
RevUrb
Feb 04th 2002
44
           RE: do you think...
Feb 04th 2002
48
           i c
Feb 04th 2002
45
           RE: i c
Feb 04th 2002
51
                i'm just asking questions
Feb 04th 2002
53
           RE: so in your experience
Feb 04th 2002
49
                RE: so in your experience
Feb 04th 2002
50
                     RE: so in your experience
Feb 04th 2002
52
That's Peace.
Feb 01st 2002
34
Because a.l.l.a.h. and g.o.d.
Feb 03rd 2002
40
      RE: Because a.l.l.a.h. and g.o.d.
Feb 06th 2002
55
^ (from p.7)
Feb 18th 2002
56
RE: ^ (from p.7)
Feb 18th 2002
57
      ^
Feb 26th 2002
58

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