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5. "CLOUT WITH OPPORTUNITY............"
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Thu Jul-01-04 06:23 PM

  

          

ABOUNDS FOR MR. COSBY.

and regarding the issue of what we hear in music.......
has he ever once gone to owners,executives in the industry....

and asked of them are you co-ercing the artist into what is coming out of your studio for a young generation to hear,mimic,act upon.

and if so,would you change the plan of action.

also,has he ever personally spoken to any of the artist as one music artist once did to a rapper.
there has been a slow change, but the person did listen i beleive.

allll my life i have heard about doing what the industry want for music artist and actors. sometimes others alledgedly choose to opt out and forego the big $$$.

ADVICE TO NEWCOMERS:
keep a regular job,just in case post signing the contract....
not understanding,or failing to read the finerrrr print and you find yourself stuck in a contract.....
doing as not expected ,you are willing to accept the consequences and just work a regular job and get the helll out of the industry.

and yes, i do beleive the artist throw in their own points as well for get in........
get out RICH, maybe WEALTHY like Bill Gates.
in the sense of how Chris Rock describes who is rich and who is wealthy.

BEFORE TODAY'S LANGUAGE IN MUSIC:
i grew up on the words my wonderful,righteous, loving,doting,caring grandmother and other family members used.
but, we knew it was "grown folk" words and not to use them, well, i guess until we were grown and angry like they were at the time.

SEXUAL HEALING---MARVIN GAYE:
man during cosby's era.
i said how can he be saying that in his music.
yet, hailed as one of the greatest.
to me, no different than today's music. sex is sex!

oldest son---olde school hip-hop. had he been able to see BET the other nite he would be most happy.
even tho he is very much into the gospel, he would have been proud.

youngest son---new age, oldee school hip-hop, moving into the blues.
the blues, ahhhh--"HOOCHIE COOCHIE MAN"--Muddy Waters and wellll loved.
hmm, today they just say "COOCHIE".

CANDY LICKER:
oh well!

defending, liking what i hear. yes and yes(but not everything).

I AM DEFENDING THE HOW DID THEY GET TO THIS POINT.
right now, i have a topic that has an intimate language direction and i love to recreate stories about romance, sensuality and i hate having to be censured for it takes away from the feelings in what i write,conveying what someone else MIGHT can use.
but, got to make it CHILDREN friendly.

I GOT TO MY POINT OF WRITINGS THRU PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN ACTION,OR SURROUNDINGS.

anddddd i had to tame my writings.
anddddd this is what i so wait on others to do as they hopefully grow.

but, i also know,or know of via what insiders in the industry spew to us and i wait.

music artist--video ladies--actors, many coming off the street in a desparate attempt to yes make easy money, so they think.
some finished high school,even worked, and then the fast life.now, caught up in an even GRANDER scheme of staying on top.
they could at some point get out,but......

also,i still say many who buy the albums,or whatever are underestimated. quite often it's fadish.

THUG SONGS:
singing what they experience and more graphic.
singing in part no different from those b4 them, just not wriiten so radio,tv friendly until the children have to wait until they are "GROWN FOLK" to understand.


TURN OFF THE TV. TURN OFF THE RADIO.
and in my lifetime, b4 rap--today's lyrics........
I SAW, HEARD !!! muchhhhhh. B4 MOVING INTO THE SUBURBS.
NOW BACK IN URBANNN USA !

YES !
THERE IS ALWAYS SELF RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT, WHO CAME B4 EACH GENERATION?

EACH GENERATION SAYS OH NO, I AM GONNA DO IT DIFFERENT.

FROM THE OWNERS---EXECUTIVES TRYING TO KEEP THEIR JOB.....DOWN THE LINE.

AMAZING GRACE:
my favorite church song.
Yes!
i know the slave trader John Newton wrote it, alledgedly had some regrets for what he was doing, but continued.

i shall continue to sing the song because like many songs i sing, others do not apprciate by our own, ising them because i find something in it for me.

NOW.
hmmm, they song it(amazing grace) as they hung them....however mr. cosby stated, but how many of them who enjoy him stretch his eyes on stage/tv, may have participated and repented.

i support some artist and do not like their ideaologies, but they also speak a common goal.
all knowing i am supporting their ideaology(which they can get out without my money), but i am supporting their common goal...
EDUCATION(their children)--DECENT HOUSING---...................

i get something in return......whatever it is they created i like and cannnn use if i desire in some form.
UP TO ME TO GET MY OWN !

but, if on some conscious ishhh and do a backward flip, i may be requesting a ......!

MY CONSCIOUS SONGS ANTHEMS:

WHAT'S GOING ON---MARVIN GAYE."what's going on". THE DEVIL'S PIE---D'ANGELO.

KICK THE SYSTEM IN THE NUTS AND VAGINA... AND AS ONE PERSON STATED--"WORK IT FROM WITHIN".


See/Hear D'ANGELO @ www.dangelosangels.com . MISS NO PAGES.



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NELLY: I'm Humble In Life Taking Nothing For Granted

AFRICA: www.bbcnews.com

THE BROKER: John Grisham

  

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Cosby [View all] , rogue_scholar, Thu Jul-01-04 03:43 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
I'm with Cosby on some things
Jul 01st 2004
1
yeah i agree
Jul 02nd 2004
9
      and to add to that
Jul 02nd 2004
10
      This is my issue
Jul 02nd 2004
16
      RE: This is my issue
Jul 02nd 2004
54
      RE: and to add to that
Jul 30th 2004
157
      Hold on.
Jul 02nd 2004
27
           im sorry i just cant believe that
Jul 02nd 2004
35
                RE: im sorry i just cant believe that
Jul 02nd 2004
46
                     the goals have not been accomplished
Jul 07th 2004
103
As the ivyleaguenegro..........
Jul 01st 2004
2
oh this is going right in my sig...
Jul 01st 2004
3
jesse
Jul 02nd 2004
11
Cosby was 100% on point...
Jul 01st 2004
4
RE: Cosby was 100% on point...
Jul 02nd 2004
12
      RE: Cosby was 100% on point...
Jul 02nd 2004
13
      RE: Cosby was 100% on point...
ATLsSoulSista
Jul 09th 2004
138
this is a lot better crafted than his last one
Jul 01st 2004
6
on my blog:
Jul 02nd 2004
7
The first one at Morehouse was the best. n/m
Jul 02nd 2004
8
I have to wonder about white folks
Jul 02nd 2004
14
RE: I have to wonder about white folks
Jul 02nd 2004
41
      yeah. pretty much.
Jul 02nd 2004
53
      the "white news" as you call it
Jul 07th 2004
105
      white girl here
Jul 21st 2004
147
Put his solution where his mouth is?
Jul 02nd 2004
15
CORRUPTION................
Jul 02nd 2004
19
I forgot to add HIV/AIDS
Jul 02nd 2004
20
      dont even get on AIDS
Jul 02nd 2004
23
           RE: dont even get on AIDS
Jul 02nd 2004
33
i disagree infinity percent
Jul 02nd 2004
22
      RE: i disagree infinity percent
Jul 02nd 2004
25
      WORD
Jul 02nd 2004
30
      Of course you do :-)
Jul 02nd 2004
29
      RE: Of course you do :-)
Jul 02nd 2004
36
           Ha!
Jul 02nd 2004
38
           RE: Of course you do :-)
Jul 28th 2004
149
      70'S
Jul 02nd 2004
45
      HOLY SHIT!!!
Jul 02nd 2004
55
      RE: HOLY SHIT!!!
Jul 02nd 2004
58
           *scratching head*
Jul 02nd 2004
63
                uhm... that was intended for suave_bro. sorry.
Jul 02nd 2004
68
      CO-SIGN WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE MUSIC
Jul 09th 2004
140
hes comments are kinda funny
Jul 02nd 2004
17
Hip Hop
Jul 02nd 2004
18
Art is just a reflection
Jul 02nd 2004
21
Exactly
Jul 02nd 2004
24
Just look at the recording industry
Jul 02nd 2004
32
      See #31 n/m
Jul 02nd 2004
34
           please your #31 didnt answer shit
Jul 02nd 2004
37
           Please
Jul 02nd 2004
39
           You just laid out a decade of American history
Jul 02nd 2004
40
                Not American history
Jul 02nd 2004
42
                Hip Hop history is a segment in American history
Jul 02nd 2004
47
                     RE: Hip Hop history is a segment in American history
Jul 02nd 2004
80
                          Oh really
Jul 03rd 2004
89
                               I'm here for the dialogue
Jul 03rd 2004
91
                Trust me, Nettrice.
Jul 02nd 2004
43
RE: Hip Hop
Jul 02nd 2004
28
      Repeat: Hip-Hop Timeline
Jul 02nd 2004
31
      It's funny how you get pissed for no reason....
Jul 02nd 2004
44
           RE: It's funny how you get pissed for no reason....
Jul 02nd 2004
48
                I'm gonna stay calm
Jul 02nd 2004
49
                     One more thing...
Jul 02nd 2004
50
                          I think that the point Suave is making is that....
Jul 02nd 2004
52
                               RE: I think that the point Suave is making is that....
Jul 02nd 2004
56
                                    I read your posts...
Jul 02nd 2004
59
                                         This debate...
Jul 02nd 2004
60
                                              this is what pisses me off...
Jul 02nd 2004
64
                                                   I agree with this
Jul 02nd 2004
66
                                                   I completely agree
Jul 07th 2004
104
                                                        cant blame the industry
Jul 07th 2004
107
7-8 YEAR OLDS
Jul 02nd 2004
26
RE: Cosby
Jul 02nd 2004
51
All the noise generated by his comments
Jul 02nd 2004
57
If you're not with Bill then you're part of the problem
Jul 02nd 2004
61
Bill Cosby Still Bitching
Jul 02nd 2004
62
Why don't you and your negro friend build a school
Jul 02nd 2004
65
RESPONSE
Jul 02nd 2004
69
      Back At you X. As you avoid my question..
Jul 02nd 2004
82
why are u even still alive?
Jul 02nd 2004
67
blame the liberals/democrats
Jul 02nd 2004
70
      calm your fake bobby seale ass down.
Jul 02nd 2004
71
           Bizarro world Argument!!!
Jul 02nd 2004
72
           WHAT SOLUTION
Jul 02nd 2004
73
           this nigga
Jul 02nd 2004
75
                Cosign!
Jul 02nd 2004
84
                2 funny
Jul 02nd 2004
87
           SPEAKING OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Jul 02nd 2004
88
completely agree
Jul 07th 2004
106
no humility no solutions
Jul 02nd 2004
74
yall have GOT to shut the fuck up
Jul 02nd 2004
76
ok and what about the humility
Jul 02nd 2004
77
sugar coat it!?
Jul 02nd 2004
86
      RE: sugar coat it!?
Jul 03rd 2004
90
           u cant be serious with this bullshit...
Jul 03rd 2004
93
                dead serious
Jul 04th 2004
95
                RE: dead serious
Jul 04th 2004
97
                RE: u cant be serious with this bullshit...
Jul 04th 2004
98
suave bro...
Jul 02nd 2004
79
      your 5 dollar insults dont mean shit
Jul 02nd 2004
85
      I feel you
Jul 04th 2004
96
are you a slave or what?
Jul 07th 2004
112
RE: Cosby
the_therapist
Jul 02nd 2004
78
I agree with Bill 100%
Femi_Omojigijigiosetuatobalehinibode
Jul 02nd 2004
81
so do i.
Jul 03rd 2004
92
but when I hear about Cosby..
Jul 02nd 2004
83
What have McWhorter & Sowell done for Blacks?
Jul 05th 2004
99
      Whoa...
Jul 05th 2004
100
      no he doesn't.
Jul 07th 2004
110
           Umm...
Jul 07th 2004
111
           The Idealogue of Latter day conservative thought......
Jul 07th 2004
117
           You've got to be joking me.
Jul 08th 2004
124
                Modern - Day - Ideologue
Jul 08th 2004
128
                     but you're assuming...
Jul 09th 2004
132
                          Weak - At Best
Jul 09th 2004
135
                               ha.
Jul 10th 2004
143
                                    RE: ha.
Jul 10th 2004
144
           RE: Umm...
Jul 08th 2004
123
                You're missing my point...
Jul 08th 2004
125
                     No I didn't.
Jul 09th 2004
131
                          Oh brother....
Jul 09th 2004
139
                               Well said...
Jul 28th 2004
152
           Actually Expertise..........
Jul 07th 2004
115
                once again...
Jul 08th 2004
122
                     Please
Jul 08th 2004
129
                          RE: Please
Jul 09th 2004
133
                               *shakes head*
Jul 09th 2004
136
      What have you done?
Jul 07th 2004
109
           Please/Read My Sig File
Jul 07th 2004
116
                I didn't duck anything.
Jul 07th 2004
121
                     *Searches in Vain for a Cogent Statement*
Jul 08th 2004
127
                          You're not talking about context.
Jul 09th 2004
134
                               Weaker than before......
Jul 09th 2004
137
FUTURE IMPACT..............
Jul 03rd 2004
94
Cosbys needs to eat a puddin pop and shut the fuck up
Jul 05th 2004
101
RE: Cosby
JahBrown
Jul 06th 2004
102
the one thing I noticed about Bill's comments is
Jul 07th 2004
108
Well....
Jul 07th 2004
113
      RE: Well....
Jul 07th 2004
114
      RE: Well....
Jul 07th 2004
118
           RE: Well....
Jul 07th 2004
119
                Hey...
Jul 07th 2004
120
                     likewise my man
Jul 08th 2004
130
      great post, some comments
Jul 09th 2004
141
           Hello...
Jul 10th 2004
142
                point by point
Jul 11th 2004
146
                     Ummm
Jul 28th 2004
150
                          Some thoughts
Jul 29th 2004
153
                               RE: Some thoughts
Jul 29th 2004
154
                                    RE: Some thoughts
Jul 30th 2004
155
                                         RE: Some thoughts
Jul 30th 2004
156
                                              I certainly agree
Jul 30th 2004
158
                                                   RE: I certainly agree
Jul 30th 2004
159
                                                        You've dun it
Jul 31st 2004
160
RE: Cosby
Jul 08th 2004
126
RE: Cosby
Jul 10th 2004
145
Bill should
Jul 28th 2004
148
And I co-sign that..
Jul 28th 2004
151

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