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Quinn

Fri Aug-04-00 10:23 AM

  
59. "RE: Once again, nay"
In response to In response to 45


          

>>>Are you saying that all rap artists should make >their music for a hypothetical child in a vacum
>>>away from society somewhere?
>No, what I'm saying is what
>I said.
it all makes perfect sense now.

> Is there not one
>person that you feel is
>more responsible than the other?
I don't know Jeru The Damaga and Juvenile personally, no way am I going to decide who is more responsible. You don't think the world has hypocrites, or does it just not matter if you preach the right things?

> Are you arguing that
>the children are not watching
>and listening?
No, the opposite - I am saying that children are listening, and I am talking about the situations those children may be in. Providing context. Not going back to an imaginary child who exists in a black whole in the universe and has a one copy of Ghetto Music: The Blueprint Of Hip-Hop and one copy of Doggystyle.

>Our children are not hypothetical.
So why do you treat them that way?? You insist on recognizing them, but when I attempt to provide a context from which they might be listening to the music, you dismiss that.

>Would you rather the children
>sing Amazing Grace or Back
>that thing up??????
SO WHAT? There's nothing wrong with Back That Azz Up, it's not even an offensive song to me, it's more playful than anything. But what do you mean by the statement? How do you think it should effect how artists make their work, and how the audience treats it? Do you think all art, ever, that is not along the lines of Amazing Grace should be discarded? Do you think it should be relegated to adult-only stores, like porn or something? Do you think no one should make it, or it shouldn't be valued as art? And whose standards should we use, anyway? Yours? Why?

>>Using Brand Nubians as an example, Slow Down is not necessarily a progressive or positive
>>song from a womanist perspective.
>Perhaps for YOU as a woman.....But
>calling a woman back from
>a foul life - using
>her body to get what
>she wants - is not
>positive?
Not even getting into this, but your way attitude about the song proves to me that I would never want someone like you being in control of the production of art any more than I would Tipper Gore or Delores Tucker. There is no difference. I don't think any one person should have that responsibility. Do you? Do you think it should be you? Cause it really sounds like you feel that way.

"I'm every MC by the name of Jay Dee" - Jay Dee

  

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Too bad this wasn't posted here... [View all] , BooDaah, Tue Aug-01-00 06:03 AM
 
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I agree...
Aug 01st 2000
1
But don't get it twisted
Aug 01st 2000
3
      RE: But don't get it twisted
Aug 01st 2000
5
      Don't be talking bout my braids..
Aug 01st 2000
19
           actually
Aug 01st 2000
23
                what are we gonna do about it?
Aug 01st 2000
26
                     don't sell it short
Aug 01st 2000
27
regarding money fixation in hip hop
Aug 01st 2000
2
RE: regarding money fixation in hip hop
Aug 01st 2000
20
      RE: regarding money fixation in hip hop
Aug 10th 2000
65
Hip Hop has taken...
Shellypooh
Aug 01st 2000
4
What started this new trend anyway?
Aug 01st 2000
6
Selective memory
Aug 01st 2000
7
RE: Selective memory
Aug 01st 2000
9
Good point nay...
Aug 01st 2000
10
But today's ballers raise millions for HSBCs
Aug 01st 2000
15
      Also, I see a lot of "we made it"
Aug 01st 2000
16
      What's an HSBC?
Aug 01st 2000
17
      Historically Black Colleges
Aug 01st 2000
18
           My bad
Aug 01st 2000
25
                I just hate the continued focus on "certain things"
Aug 02nd 2000
28
                     RE: I just hate the continued focus on
Aug 04th 2000
49
                          How easy we lie to ourselves
Aug 04th 2000
56
      RE: But today's ballers raise millions for HSBCs
Aug 04th 2000
47
           RE: But today's ballers raise millions for HSBCs
Aug 04th 2000
55
Finally
Aug 01st 2000
22
King Tee's "Bass"
Aug 01st 2000
21
Hip Hop
Aug 01st 2000
8
The sad thing is...
Aug 01st 2000
11
      Here's that detachment
Aug 01st 2000
13
      but you know how folk are....
Aug 01st 2000
14
      what is THE 10 pt program?
Aug 01st 2000
24
      K, the children are WATCHING &
Aug 10th 2000
66
           So why are y'all just limiting it to rappers
Aug 02nd 2000
30
           Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes!
Aug 02nd 2000
33
                Only you can judge if you're doing the best you can
Aug 02nd 2000
35
                     To me it's not as much
Aug 03rd 2000
38
           The media are watching the children
Aug 02nd 2000
32
      I fear it too...
Aug 02nd 2000
34
RE: Too bad this wasn't posted here...
Quinn
Aug 01st 2000
12
*observing*
Wise_7
Aug 02nd 2000
29
      How many of us are starting programs?
Aug 02nd 2000
31
           Hip-hop
Aug 03rd 2000
36
                Hip Hop is not a gateway Drug
Aug 03rd 2000
37
How would yall feel.....
Aug 03rd 2000
39
RE: How would yall feel.....
Quinn
Aug 03rd 2000
40
      Please spare me the course
Aug 03rd 2000
41
           what is your real question?
Quinn
Aug 03rd 2000
42
                although i will admit
Quinn
Aug 03rd 2000
43
                Exactly
Aug 03rd 2000
44
                     Once again, nay
Aug 04th 2000
45
                          Maybe you think that calling black female addicts bitches
Aug 04th 2000
58
                          It should have read
Aug 04th 2000
60
                          It should have read
Aug 04th 2000
62
                               amen n/m
Quinn
Aug 04th 2000
63
                         
Do You People have
Aug 04th 2000
46
apparently not enough 4 u
Aug 04th 2000
48
Help!
Aug 04th 2000
50
let's see...
Aug 04th 2000
51
      Ah-ight.....
Aug 04th 2000
53
Ok I read it AGAIN
Aug 04th 2000
52
      well..
Aug 04th 2000
54
Did it ever occur to you
Aug 04th 2000
57
Oh what a Quiet World
Aug 04th 2000
61
RE: Oh what a Quiet World
Quinn
Aug 04th 2000
64

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