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>Here's what the Green Party's Platform
>states word for word....
>
>* Democratic Banking: Mandatory conversion of
>the 200 largest banks with
>80% of all bank assets
>into democratic publicly-owned community banks.
>Financial and technical incentives and
>assistance for voluntary conversion of
>other privately-owned banks into publicly-owned
>community banks or consumer-owned credit
>unions.

Which restates my point that the platform contemplates transferring ownership of the banks and not ownership of the monies on deposit.


>What this means is they are
>going to take the 200
>biggest private banks and turn
>them into government-run banks,

Do you believe that the banking industry is not currently regulated by the government?

along
>with 80% of the monies
>that were generated within the
>private banks.

No. That is a definitional provision. This is the way that they are defining, or clarifying, what they mean by the largest 200 banks.

Now think
>about it.....government under the Green
>Party controls the money,

As today's government does.

controls
>the tax rate,

As today's government does.

and controls
>your income

There are complicated back door ways of regulating this that are currently in place. At least give it to the Green Party that they are up front about their agenda.

and how much
>you can even MAKE in
>one year. What makes
>you think they won't touch
>that money?

True that they appear to be advocating a complete redistribution of wealth, HOWEVER, you will note that my point to which you are responding is that the platform regarding bank ownership does not contemplate nationalizing the monies on deposit.

Hell it
>was only a couple of
>years ago in which representatives
>were trying to get a
>bill passed in Congress in
>which banks were to be
>required to report to the
>government of any out of
>the ordinary transactions by it's
>customers.

Surely you are aware that a transaction (ANY transaction by a regulated institution, whether that is a bank or a stock brokerage or whatever) that is in excess of $10,000 and is conducted in cash must be reported to the government? That law has been in place for at least 15 years (I became aware of it 15 years ago). In addition, your point isn't terribly apt, since you are pointing to proposals that were not made by Green Party members.

A bill like
>that wouldn't be necessary because
>government already CONTROLS the banks.

Not clear how much more control the government could assert than it already does. All this proposal does, in my view, is shift the bank profits to the government. And allow the government then to decide whether profits are appropriate for financial institutions and, if so, how those monies could be used for society as a whole.

>therefore, eventually, all that money
>is going to be gone,
>especially for former millionaires.
>The Green Party has a
>provision in which to tax
>all assets in a household
>over 2.5 million.

A relatively small number of people have assets in excess of 2.5 million. You also don't say at what rate those assets will be taxed. I assume 100%, given some of the other proposals that they have made. But be clear that just saying "they're going to tax it" doesn't tell you what will be left at the end of the day.

Good
>justice there. Hence, you're
>only going to get what
>government SAYS you can get.

And how is that different from how the system is currently set up? Except that you agree with the current allocations and the effects of the proposed allocations are unknown, so frightening.

Again, I am not a Green Party member or proponent. Just trying to keep your arguments on the straight and narrow. You are a powerful and persuasive writer (just because I disagree with you and am not generally persuaded by your writing does not negate this). You don't need to descend into exaggeration or hyperbole to make your points.

Peace.

~ ~ ~
All meetings end in separation
All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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='_'=

Every hundred years, all new people

  

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10 Reasons NOT to Vote Nader [View all] , Expertise, Wed Aug-09-00 04:42 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: 10 Reasons NOT to Vote Nader
Aug 09th 2000
1
Plenty of reasons to vote Nader
Aug 09th 2000
2
sounds more like communism to me n/m
Aug 09th 2000
5
      and ?
Aug 09th 2000
6
      and....
Aug 09th 2000
12
           possibly
epiphany
Aug 09th 2000
14
           RE: and....
Aug 09th 2000
15
           dear Dove
Aug 09th 2000
16
           Yo Krew!
Aug 09th 2000
18
                LOL!
Aug 10th 2000
21
                     hey Dovely
Aug 10th 2000
23
                     Dove much love, but...
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
28
                     wow
Aug 10th 2000
45
                     nice answer d-Best.
Aug 11th 2000
55
                     hey dove...
Aug 10th 2000
47
                          I feel you
Aug 10th 2000
48
           RE: and....
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
27
           I never said it was bad
Aug 10th 2000
43
           Democracy Vs. Communism
Aug 10th 2000
39
           I agree to a point
Aug 10th 2000
44
           RE: Democracy Vs. Communism
Aug 11th 2000
57
                true dat! n/m
Aug 11th 2000
62
           Democracy Vs. Communism
Aug 10th 2000
40
      RE: sounds more like communism to me n/m
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
26
i don't support him
Aug 09th 2000
3
fire, i don't understand
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
29
      i'm a younger person
Aug 11th 2000
54
           RE: i'm a younger person
Aug 11th 2000
58
I think alot of people
Aug 09th 2000
4
word
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
30
RE: I think alot of people
Aug 10th 2000
41
dunno yet if i'm voting for him, but...
Aug 09th 2000
7
RE: dunno yet if i'm voting for him, but...
Aug 09th 2000
10
I think that platform is cool...
Aug 09th 2000
8
RE: 10 Reasons NOT to Vote Nader
dividedwefall
Aug 09th 2000
9
RE: 10 Reasons NOT to Vote Nader
Aug 09th 2000
11
RE: 10 Reasons NOT to Vote Nader
Aug 09th 2000
13
10 Reasons to Vote Nader
Aug 09th 2000
17
RE: 10 Reasons to Vote Nader
Aug 10th 2000
20
      you're not reading
Aug 10th 2000
22
      RE: you're not reading
Aug 10th 2000
36
           RE: you're not reading
Aug 10th 2000
51
                Part 1.
Aug 11th 2000
53
                RE: you're not reading
Aug 11th 2000
56
                     fascism rears its ugly head
Aug 11th 2000
60
                          RE: fascism rears its ugly head
Aug 11th 2000
61
                               dear Expertise
Aug 12th 2000
64
                                    RE: dear Expertise part 1
Aug 12th 2000
65
                                         goodbye
Aug 13th 2000
66
                                              Stop Doggin my bwoy!
uncle_clarence_tomas
Aug 14th 2000
67
      RE: 10 Reasons to Vote Nader
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
31
      RE: 10 Reasons to Vote Nader
Aug 11th 2000
59
      Nader is anti military...thats foolish..he wants
Young_Isa
Aug 14th 2000
69
Analysis
Aug 10th 2000
19
RE: Analysis
Aug 10th 2000
24
again, with your uneducated attempts to talk
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
32
RE: again, with your uneducated attempts to talk
Aug 10th 2000
37
      Have any of you noticed yet
Aug 10th 2000
38
      Well, now...
Aug 10th 2000
46
      Banks
Aug 11th 2000
52
I have to quote you. Sorry.
Aug 10th 2000
35
Look
Aug 10th 2000
42
      RE: Look
Aug 10th 2000
50
          
RE: 10 Reasons NOT to Vote Nader
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
25
this is it for me... TODAY
d-Best
Aug 10th 2000
33
      why not just run for office? n/m
Aug 10th 2000
49
Viva El Ralph!
Aug 10th 2000
34
Hear Ye...
Ylana
Aug 11th 2000
63
i wasn't voting for that cracker anyway..vote for ME ISA.
Young_Isa
Aug 14th 2000
68

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