>My problem is this is more >a derivative of the worldwide >fashion industry which has its >roots in European culture as >suggested by Greece and Rome- >both those cultures dealt largely >from the Egyptian deck.
Of course, without colonialism, it seems to me that there would be no reason to CARE about European ideals of beauty in the first place if you weren't interested in Europe. Also, if Egyptians came up with much of the concepts we use in the fashion industry today, what would that matter to a group that is culturally different like the Yoruba?
>but all this is for the >other post. > >>I don't think that "beauty" is >>that necessary of a concept >>as we make it out >>to be. I save a >>whole lot of time not >>worrying about being cute if >>I don't want to (which >>is most of the time). > >I disagree- I think beauty at >lest the general concept is >something necessary for human life >and social interactiom. I would >also suggest that all that >time you spend not being >cute- is just as much >time you're devoting to demonstrating >beauty.
I'm just laz . I can see what youre saying, but I can also see that beauty as a social institution with defined boundaries of who is/ain't in that privileges certain people on a large scale as a problem.
>The confusing thing about this whole >issue is the suggestion that >dark skin women should be >accepted into the realm of >Euro fashion and leisure and >popoular beauty ideals but we >have yet to determine whether >or not those arenas are >actually worth the trouble.
As we grow into a more worldwide community, we are incorporating various cultures into our own. We are being influenced by a wider variety of ideas...and the people who are in power's ideas have the most influence. (Of course, groups with the most power don't necessarily distribute that power equally)
>Should a dark sister be dismayed >that there are no dark >women in Vogue- hell no- >fuck Vogue.
No, she shouldn't...but shouldn't is different from won't. Not seeing "positive" images of yourself (depending on your pov) can damage a person's self-esteem. Of course, some people will be like "eff Vogue"...but others won't. And it would behoove us all as people to eliminate the social institution of beauty.
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