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50. "RE: Marshall Mathers: How Blatant Is His Success?"
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I think someone already touched on this, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

The way I see it, there are two different Eminem's running around right now. There's the skilled, creative, solid "underground" eminem (aka the one from "Infinite"), and there's the TRL Pop Icon Eminem, which is the one that about 98% of the population knows of.

Bottom line, Eminem has reached such huge success due to the fact that he is a blonde-haired, blue eyed white boy who happens to be able to rhyme, which automatically makes him the new posterboy for every pop network and magazine, which in turn results in adoration from millions of 13 year old girls and confused white suburban young men (usually around the age of 15) everywhere.

Now don't get me wrong, Em has skill ( i mean, I do actually own MMLP, SSLP, and Infinite) but his skill has been so watered down to the point that now MTV and the general public have been pushing him just to keep up with the NSyncs and Britney Spears of the world. I mean, it's to the point now where em is one of those people on shows like TRL that gets a video retired one day, and the next day already has a new video out, which two days later will hit the number one spot.

But enough about TRL. Back to Eminem. Like I was saying, he is talented ("Stan" off of MMLP showed Eminem's potential as a serious lyricist). But because of his huge success, it seems to me he has created this controversial image, and resulted to such childish material, just so that the media will hate him, and he will disappear from the public's main focus (which I think could be good for him, because it could probably revive his style and hunger a little). But I repeat, he is talented.

More talented than Common? No. Mos Def? No. Black Thought? No. Rakim? HELL NO. But Eminem is still a skilled lyricist (and he is not in the Vanilla Ice category, He actually has legitimate talent) . Is he at the top of the list? absoulutely not. Do other emcees like Common and Mos, for example, deserve just as much, if not more, acclaim and attention? HELL YES.

But it really all comes down to this.

IS EMINEM AS SUCCESSFUL AS HE IS RIGHT NOW SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT HE IS WHITE?

YES.

WILL THAT MENTALITY EVER CHANGE?

PROBABLY NOT. As much as people say there's equality in this country now, we all know that millions of people in this country are still closet racists and homophobes, and the fact is, like I said, Eminem is marketed at suburban america, and what middle aged mother wants her 12 year-old daughter coming up to her at the register at the grocery store with a magazine with a black man in a kufi (that's what they're called, right?).

Eminem is a pop superstar. Simply because he's W-H-I-T-E. And until people open their minds, this isn't ever gonna change. END OF DISCUSSION.

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It's useless for me to even put anything here anymore.


  

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Marshall Mathers: How Blatant Is His Success? [View all] , JustLisa, Wed Oct-11-00 06:25 AM
 
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Michael Jordan: Shame on Him!
Oct 11th 2000
1
Very good
Trey
Oct 11th 2000
2
RE: marshal mather
nativetongues
Oct 20th 2000
53
RE: Very good
Nice1
Oct 27th 2000
72
RE: Very good
Nice1
Oct 27th 2000
73
Valid Response- BUT a little flawed
Oct 12th 2000
3
She's got you there..
KoalaLove
Oct 12th 2000
4
RE: She's got you there..
KoalaLove
Oct 12th 2000
5
thank you KL- how r u?
Oct 12th 2000
6
      Im kool
KoalaLove
Oct 12th 2000
7
           damnit koala!
Oct 24th 2000
68
Poor Koala
Oct 17th 2000
19
      You dont know me
KoalaLove
Oct 17th 2000
22
           RE: You dont know me
Oct 18th 2000
44
                Nonsense
KoalaLove
Oct 20th 2000
54
RE: Valid Response- BUT a little flawed
mE
Oct 12th 2000
8
Sports
KoalaLove
Oct 12th 2000
10
      RE: Sports
mE
Oct 18th 2000
30
           simple as this
KoalaLove
Oct 18th 2000
33
                On top of that
KoalaLove
Oct 18th 2000
34
                yes
Oct 24th 2000
67
                i love you K
Oct 19th 2000
46
What you're missing is:
Oct 12th 2000
12
I get it
Oct 12th 2000
13
if that's the case then...
Oct 12th 2000
14
RE: if that's the case then...
Nov 12th 2000
82
last time I checked:
Oct 12th 2000
15
      RE: last time I checked:
Oct 12th 2000
16
      Cliff Notes for ya
Oct 12th 2000
17
           RE: Cliff Notes for ya
KoalaLove
Oct 17th 2000
25
                RE: Cliff Notes for ya
she-ra
Oct 18th 2000
37
                That wasnt meant to be combatitive
KoalaLove
Oct 18th 2000
38
                Son, clearly this person has lost it
Oct 21st 2000
63
      Say What!?
KoalaLove
Oct 17th 2000
23
      only one disagreement
Nov 12th 2000
83
      RE: last time I checked:
Oct 18th 2000
39
      Hold on now
KoalaLove
Oct 18th 2000
41
      Coaches & GMs don't PAY the athletes salaries
Oct 21st 2000
57
           Don't bother
KoalaLove
Oct 21st 2000
58
Why so much hostility?
Oct 18th 2000
35
      Ya'll need to stop hatin on Will
KoalaLove
Oct 18th 2000
36
      um KL?
Oct 18th 2000
40
           RE: um KL?
KoalaLove
Oct 18th 2000
42
                Thank you, koala
Oct 21st 2000
59
                It must be an age thing
KoalaLove
Oct 21st 2000
60
                     They never went to Union Square
Oct 21st 2000
61
                          not just that..
KoalaLove
Oct 21st 2000
62
                Plus Jeff invented the transformer scratch (n/m)
Nov 16th 2000
88
      You still don't get it:
Oct 20th 2000
52
           I can hear the wheels pedalling...
KoalaLove
Oct 20th 2000
55
RE: Valid Response- BUT a little flawed
Nov 23rd 2000
90
Tiger!
Defoe
Oct 19th 2000
51
For the record
KoalaLove
Oct 20th 2000
56
fuck eminem,fuck this argument. FTW n/m
Isa_Sabur
Nov 16th 2000
87
RE: Michael Jordan: Shame on Him!
sp215
Nov 24th 2000
91
RE: Marshall Mathers: How Blatant Is His Success?
mE
Oct 12th 2000
9
RE: Marshall Mathers: How Blatant Is His Success?
Qnbei
Oct 12th 2000
11
the way i see it
RaShaunda
Oct 12th 2000
18
yes.
Oct 17th 2000
21
RE: the way i see it
mE
Oct 18th 2000
32
People hate on Eminem,,,,,,,,
Oct 17th 2000
20
Hasn't he answered the ? himself....
Oct 17th 2000
24
RE: People hate on Eminem,,,,,,,,
MellowSmoothe
Nov 13th 2000
84
Humor me.
KoalaLove
Oct 17th 2000
26
By the Way
KoalaLove
Oct 17th 2000
27
ure cute
Oct 19th 2000
47
      You get props
KoalaLove
Oct 19th 2000
48
But wait there's more
KoalaLove
Oct 18th 2000
28
      But wait there's more
AfricanHerbsman
Oct 21st 2000
64
      Thats not my perspective at all.
KoalaLove
Oct 24th 2000
66
           okay, player..
AfricanHerbsman
Oct 25th 2000
70
      adding to your list....
Oct 28th 2000
74
you can't deny...
she-ra
Oct 18th 2000
29
Think about it...
KoalaLove
Oct 18th 2000
31
up?
Oct 18th 2000
43
having just sat here and read this whole thread
shockalicious
Oct 18th 2000
45
      the nity gritty
KoalaLove
Oct 19th 2000
49
Hip Hop Transcends the Illusion of Race
Archadion
Oct 24th 2000
65
uh
Oct 24th 2000
69
eminem is a red herring
Oct 25th 2000
71
RE: Marshall Mathers: How Blatant Is His Success?
Oct 29th 2000
75
Agreed.
Oct 30th 2000
76
RE: Agreed.
hawk
Nov 09th 2000
77
      New York radio
Nov 11th 2000
78
RE: Marshall Mathers: How Blatant Is His Success?
Johnnie
Nov 11th 2000
79
P.S.
Johnnie
Nov 11th 2000
80
      read the original post again
Nov 12th 2000
81
RE hey girl
monstaz
Nov 13th 2000
85
RE: Marshall Mathers: How Blatant Is His Success?
philiagoddess
Nov 14th 2000
86
i am goin to offer this:
Nov 16th 2000
89
We are worried about the wrong person..........
PinkButterfly
Nov 25th 2000
92

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