Contrary to popular belief my purpose extends far beyond debate. In this case- this is an old dead issue and anybody with sense would not try to argue against the idea that Eminem's success is in part due to his race- even he admits it.

As far as NWA, Too Live Crew, or TOO Short- whatever the controversey none of those artists were given play in pop media- dont kid yourself. Two Live Crew was NEVER on the couple of Teen People- thats a fact. NWA never hosted an MTV show- that is also a fact. Im not even sure if any of those groups ever even made it to Saturday Night Live.

By the way Eminem has had three albums.



>Um. 2 Live Crew didn't blow
>up til they got press
>coverage about their legal troubles;Em's
>the other way around.

EXACTLY- but you act like 2 Live crew didnt exist before the legal troubles and thats preposterous; in Em's case he was a star before anybody even had a chance to consider his content- thats exactly the point. Eminiem's content had been "shocking" since the Slim Shady EP that was released a long time before the album- for some reason they didnt catch on til this album...why is that- cuz they didnt care he was a white guy and it was easier to sell him to "white" consumers- cmon man this has been industry custom since the 50's.

Eminem got put on cuz he's got skills? maybe on Dre's end of things- but not much farther. Since when does MTV care about skills?

>I don't see
>what your beef is.

Did I ever say I had beef- Like I said he used to be a favorite of mine- but that was about two years ago and he hasnt changed since.

He is whatever I say is right- Tired

> As
>far as PE is concerned,
>they were always more pro-black,
>so you can't really have
>expected them to strike a
>chord with white kids.

right cuz those "white" kids sure do hate rebelious music- are you serious? I gues Rage against the Machine and Limp Bizkit should pack it up. You might not hae expected PE to strike a chord with "white" kids- but they sure as hell did... they still werent on the cover of Teen People though.

> A better analogy,
>but one you avoided because
>it would explode your argument
>would be NWA. Not only
>do they have misogynist, violent,
>and offensive lyrics, but also
>have Dre on the boards.
>The fact they went platinum
>shows you that controversy sold
>back then.

Wow that sure as hell blows up my argument- face the facts kid. NWA DID go platinum without the promotional energy that Eminem has the luxury of. Furthermore you guys are still willing to gauge the ability of seasoned veterans even the likes of Puffy and Will Smith go way back in our history- Eminem is not even all that experienced- face the facts... Im here in Detroit I remember when he first got started less than 5 years ago... he hasnt come that far.

Man, I had
>heard so much about you
>too as far as debate
>went.....I know you can do
>better.....can't you?

Yuck- kid you're not even in my league especially if you call all that an argument.

K