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51. "RE: THE NEW NEGRO"
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>>
>>What's the biggest problem Most Blacks
>>face?
>>
>>POVERTY!
>
>Racism

If you look at the day to day problems a lot of Blacks face, particularly poor ones, poverty is the problem that makes them easier to oppress in the first place. It's also the problem that's probably the most pressing in their daily lives.




>>Which leads to crime, poor schools,
>>shattered families, makes Blacks Vulnerable
>>to opression, etc.
>>
>
>Every group faces poverty it's racism
>that makes poverty hurt our
>community more than say a
>white community.

No argument here, I just think that if you can't feed your kids, poverty is your biggest concern.




>Actually I think the numbers are the same. If I recall >correctly I think it was Charles Olgatree<sp> or Claude >Anderson that said the same number(talented tenth) of Blacks at >the top now is the same number that was at the top back then.

That kinda proves that we're still in the 4th inning, if only 10% of Blacks are at the top or economically successful....then we need to take care of the other 90%.

If 60-80% of Blacks were economically successful and there was still no change in the racial dynamics of this country....THEN I'd call Booker T. a failure.


>While I do agree that money
>runs this country and economic
>power will help Blacks I
>don't trust politicans. How many
>politicans that need a white
>majority to win are going
>help Blacks at the expense
>of their white majority? Just
>look at the Natives that
>were giving money to politicans,
>how much did it help
>them,or the way the Democrats
>have become more Republican.


I don't neccessarily disagree with you, however I do think that strategic use of economic power in politics still has value.




>They can though. Look at what
>Ward Connerly is doing and
>Clarence Thomas. Money or no
>money this will affect your
>kids and grandkids.

True, but perhaps economic strength can shield them and/or I can do something to put a stop to this nonsense.

>We are still getting shot dead
>in the street, still denied
>access to capital, upper education,
>and equal justice in the
>courts.

Who do the cops shoot? Poor Blacks in poor neighboorhoods that no one is paying attention to. They prey on the powerless and those who cannot fight back. Ditto for Justice, it's easy to screw over a Brotha in court when he's got a lazy Public Defender defendin his but, as opposed to a good lawyer his family hired.

Education is such an economic issue it's not even funny. I went from an afluent high school to a Blue collar one due to my family moving and I saw that first hand. When you see working class friends who are brilliant, go to so/so schools (if at all) because that's what they aspire to (or believe they can do) while mediocre friends from affluent families go to excellent schools and end up making more then your poor friends parents fresh out of college....despite being well...idiots....you see the power of economics in education.

I read an Article in Forbes today that showed how kids born into Wealthier families do better on their SATs. Could be a 2-300 point difference depending on your parents income. That could be the difference between one of the top 25 schools in the nation and a so/so state school.

As for Capital it's about working the system, so maybe that's not neccessarily an economic issue, but a knowledge one.

It works like this, when you apply for a loan they look at your credit and income. Based on scoring algorithms they come up with an assessment that the lender uses to determine the size of your loan. However, you may get downgraded depending on your personal situation. I.e. If you're a free lance worker, they may downgrade you, if they don't think that your Business model is all that great, they may downgrade you.

On the other hand, you have "credit repair" you have so/so credit. But you haven't missed a payment in a year, or you need the car to go to work, or you work for a Pharmaceutical company, so the know you'll probably always be employed.

The point is that there is a lot of room for Loan officers to eff you over. So you need to learn how to work the system so that they can't do that isht. One way is to apply for loans over the phone or online, another way is to pull your credit report 6 months before you plan on getting the loan so you can make sure it's tight.

The point is that there are ways around all that isht, you just need to know what to do.



>Jews are working with the same
>people who hate them almost
>as much as us.

I wouldn't be surprised if they hated Jews more, but Jews have such a strong financial base that they don't eff with em. I don't care if people hate me, just if they eff with me.


>If economic empowerment is the solution
>then what happen to Blacks
>when they had economic empowerment
>in Tulsa OK, Roswood, and
>Durham? They were still
>at the mercy of whites.
>Wealth did not save them.
>

They had money but NO power, what good does money do you in a society where you have no rights or any real power outside of your immediate surroundings?

This is what I'm talking about, Blacks need to build economic strength, wield that strength and develop a formidable presence is all aspects of society: Social, Economic & Political. That is how we can protect ourselves from things like this.




Peace,






M2

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POLITICS of BLACK NATIONALISM [View all] , utamaroho, Tue May-01-01 07:25 AM
 
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From the introduction...
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
1
History as a teacher...
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
2
GARVEY
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
3
Yes,
May 03rd 2001
45
      depends
utamaroho
May 03rd 2001
46
           That might be
May 04th 2001
62
PAN-AFRICANISM
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
4
RE: History as a teacher...
May 04th 2001
54
CHAPTER 1
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
5
CHAPTER 1 GOALS
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
9
reminds me of...
May 02nd 2001
15
      Where can I
May 04th 2001
63
           MLK speech book?
May 08th 2001
77
thank you
May 01st 2001
6
His philosophies and opinions...
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
7
      that's what i read
May 01st 2001
8
LIES, LIES, and more LIES
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
10
What IS the cultural imperative?-n/m
May 07th 2001
69
good post.
May 01st 2001
11
THE NEW NEGRO
utamaroho
May 01st 2001
12
RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 01st 2001
14
while coming to work...
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
16
RE: while coming to work...
May 02nd 2001
22
great advice...
May 02nd 2001
23
Dual Role
May 04th 2001
58
RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 02nd 2001
17
MONEY IS POWER?
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
18
      PERFECT EXAMPLE
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
20
           A few comments
May 02nd 2001
24
           Imperfect Results
May 09th 2001
78
                that won't happen
utamaroho
May 20th 2001
81
                     But that actually happened
May 20th 2001
83
RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 03rd 2001
49
nice one...
utamaroho
May 03rd 2001
50
True n.m.
May 05th 2001
65
      RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 05th 2001
64
           RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 05th 2001
66
                RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 06th 2001
67
                     Power Myths
May 06th 2001
68
                          RE: Power Myths
May 07th 2001
70
                               RE: Power Myths
May 07th 2001
71
                                    RE: Power Myths
May 07th 2001
72
                                         I think we're going in circles
May 07th 2001
73
                                              RE: I think we're going in circles
May 07th 2001
75
                                                   Word on Gentrification
May 08th 2001
76
RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 07th 2001
74
RE: THE NEW NEGRO
musha
May 02nd 2001
25
RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 02nd 2001
30
      RE: THE NEW NEGRO
May 02nd 2001
31
           Right Wing Conservative
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
32
                M2 is more conservative
May 03rd 2001
33
                RE: M2 is more conservative
May 03rd 2001
36
                     RE: M2 is more conservative
May 03rd 2001
37
                Amistad
May 20th 2001
84
Cool idea for a post man.
dittyman
May 01st 2001
13
RE: POLITICS of BLACK NATIONALISM
musha
May 02nd 2001
19
A LONG READ, BUT...
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
21
CHAPTER 2
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
26
BIOLOGICAL RACISM
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
27
      YO!
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
28
CHAPTER 3
utamaroho
May 02nd 2001
29
WHY IS THIS?!?
utamaroho
May 03rd 2001
38
      RE: WHY IS THIS?!?
May 04th 2001
57
can I get this online?
May 03rd 2001
34
RE: can I get this online?
May 03rd 2001
35
AFTERMATH OF THE WAR
utamaroho
May 03rd 2001
39
RE: nationbuilding...
May 03rd 2001
40
THANKS
utamaroho
May 03rd 2001
42
RE: fyi
May 03rd 2001
47
      i called and got no answer...
utamaroho
May 03rd 2001
48
           RE: i called and got no answer...
May 04th 2001
52
           RE: i called and got no answer...
May 04th 2001
56
           RE:...
May 04th 2001
59
           Me too!
May 04th 2001
61
           RE: new site
May 04th 2001
53
           I'll be there!
May 04th 2001
60
RE: nationbuilding...
May 03rd 2001
43
Two Thousand Seasons
May 03rd 2001
44
RE: AFTERMATH OF THE WAR
May 04th 2001
55
May 03rd 2001
41
Going to finish this, are you?
nelle30087
May 18th 2001
79
Sooner than you think...
utamaroho
May 18th 2001
80
Again, please?
May 20th 2001
82

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