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23. "RE: from the introduction...."
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>_Perspectives and Objectives_
>
>"This study was not approached objectively.
> It is not possible
>to be objective towards Europe.
> Certainly the victims of
>its cultural, poilitical, and economic
>imperialism are not objective, if
>they are sane.

for me this is not true, because I am not attached to what ancient europeans have done to my ancestors. When certain ones seek for truth and spiritual attainment, the first step is always becoming detached from old ideas, habits, feelings, personal grudges and etc...ones cannot present to the world a thought a free will offering intended to uplift and empower other ones with internal authentic power, if ones have a point to prove, being attached to that point will cause blindsightedness...

if ones want to prove to you the sky is red, they will only present to you info that says teh sky is red and discredit the info that tell you the sky is blue,

it doesn't make better to not be objective or detached from your lower nature tendencies, it makes it worse and to another degree, it misleads those who are looking for the truth as this is even admitting that it does...



>And Europeans cannot be 'objective' about
>their own cultural history.
>The question, then becomes: What
>could objectivity possibly mean in
>terms of human mental attitudes?
>The implications of this concept
>of objectivity are discussed critically
>in this study and elsewhere.
> It is a concept
>that acts to mistify Europe's
>victims: one of the most
>effective tools of European ideology.
>
>The claim to be an absolute
>truth is a psychological neccesity
>for the European mentality. And
>since we have accepted it,
>it is an edict that
>has constrained most of us
>who have been trained in
>European academies. But African-centeredness breaks
>that hold by recognizing the
>truth as a process in
>which we immerse ourselves because
>of a committment, not some
>to some universal abstraction, but
>to a certain quality of
>life. From an African-centered
>perspective, we understand truth to
>be inseparable from the search
>for meaning and purpose -
>the unique concern of human
>consciousness. As African scholars,
>it is our responsibility to
>create systematic theoretical formulations which
>will reveal truths that enable
>us to liberate and utilize
>the energies of our people.
> In this view, the
>self-determinist, the revolutionary, and the
>scholar are one, having the
>same objective, involved in the
>same truth-process. The claim
>we make is not to
>a spurious 'objectivity', but to
>honesty. I, therefore have made
>no attempt to camouflage either
>my relationship to Europe or
>my goals in undertaking
>this study.
>
>As Wade Nobles says, the types
>of questions we ask are
>influenced by the culture to
>which we belong. Theory is
>born out of committment and
>intention. Every theorist puts part
>of herslef (or himself) into
>the theoretical fromulations and conclusions
>that she (or he) produces.
> But that does not
>make them any less valid."
>

This whole excerpt has proven that the author themselves are thinking within the western idealogy that it hopes to discredit...

it's like me looking through yellow shades, giving you reasons why you shouldn't look through yellow shades and not even realizing that even my ideas of why not to look through yellow shades are based on the way I view life through my own pair of yellow shades...

cure: take off the shades, admit to yourself that self glorification is just as bad, realize that if you don't find out the truth about things but judge and critique those things based on finite knowledge, limits you to finite critical thinking and eventually outdated/discredited thinking as well...

from what you have said and what uta have written from the books, there has already been presented serious contradictions, so therefore this book has already been discredited, while it may seemingly make good points, I suspect that a reader who is purely on the search for truth will still feel like there is something else...

That feeling in me is the reason why I search past everything to find the truth...

it's why I am writing here, because I know through my feelings that there is more and this is book is just as bad as american history text books...

  

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YURUGU [View all] , utamaroho, Tue Sep-25-01 01:40 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
What is Yurugu?
utamaroho
Sep 25th 2001
1
RE: What is Yurugu?
Sep 26th 2001
10
u shd
Sep 26th 2001
12
a review on amazon.com
Sep 26th 2001
11
racist as in
Sep 26th 2001
13
lmao...here it is:
Sep 26th 2001
21
      addendum:
Sep 26th 2001
26
           i wd just be slow
Sep 26th 2001
30
                word.
Sep 26th 2001
32
RE: a review on amazon.com
Sep 26th 2001
31
What I find inconsistent
Sep 26th 2001
18
      from the introduction....
Sep 26th 2001
22
          
                RE: from the introduction....
Sep 26th 2001
24
                     RE: from the introduction....
Sep 26th 2001
27
                          ok, i'm at work and really busy
Sep 26th 2001
29
                          question from yurugu post...
Sep 28th 2001
42
                               ok, idiot day
Sep 28th 2001
43
To Save Space:
utamaroho
Sep 25th 2001
2
i love it when
Sep 26th 2001
17
I was wondering
Sep 25th 2001
3
where else
Sep 26th 2001
14
      RE: where else
Sep 26th 2001
37
YURUGU: Questions
Sep 25th 2001
4
I need more reason
Sep 25th 2001
5
RE: I need more reason
Sep 25th 2001
6
      For myself?
Sep 25th 2001
7
good idea
Sep 26th 2001
15
      RE: good idea
qi
Sep 26th 2001
19
why is it so damned expensive?
Sep 26th 2001
8
did u try looking for it used?
Sep 26th 2001
16
yeah...wasn't much better
Sep 26th 2001
20
RE: why is it so damned expensive?
Sep 26th 2001
34
      lmao
Sep 27th 2001
41
RE: YURUGU
Sep 26th 2001
9
Why undertake this study?
Sep 26th 2001
25
RE: Why undertake this study?
Sep 26th 2001
28
careful...
Sep 26th 2001
33
RE: careful...
Sep 26th 2001
35
curious...
Sep 26th 2001
36
RE: curious...
Sep 26th 2001
38
This book does hold racist ideaology
Euroculture
Sep 26th 2001
39
i would read mein kampf
Sep 27th 2001
40
do they sell this in Europe
Sep 28th 2001
44
another question
Sep 30th 2001
45
RE: another question
Oct 07th 2001
47
WHY READ YURUGU?
Oct 07th 2001
46
Interesting response
Oct 08th 2001
48
That's It!!!!
Oct 08th 2001
49
      RE: That's It!!!!
Oct 08th 2001
50
           RE: That's It!!!!
Oct 08th 2001
51

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