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"The obligatory Pac v Floyd post"
Sun Nov-14-10 09:02 AM by bentagain

  

          

The fight last night being what it was, the argument post fight was more entertaining.

We had the loudest negro in the room arguing against at least 5-6 boricuas. He's making his points about PBF's speed and defense, etc...Pac's never fought a fighter with speed to compete with him, etc...

Riddle me this:
PBF wanted olympic style drug testing to fight Pac earlier this year. Then turns around and signs a fight against Shane, who's already tested positive for PEDs. Pac's never pissed hot, just keeps busting peoples ass while they throw dirt (see Cam Newton).
Didn't Pac eventually agree to all of PBFs demands.
What was the reason for this fight not happening earlier this year?

Didn't Pac have a trilogy of fights against Morales, and 2 fights against JMM? Now that he's moved up in weight, it seems that people forget he was handing people their hats in the lower weight classes too, where the fighters are much faster.

What I've noticed in Pac's fights lately, is pre-fight the opponent is going to do this, going to do that...and then they taste the leather, feel the power, and end up covering up and losing the fight, while Pac is still throwing almost 100 punches in the later rounds. PBF has the speed advantage, and has impeccable defense, but once Pac touches his chin, I don't think we'll see the same PBF!!!

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The obligatory Pac v Floyd post [View all] , bentagain, Sun Nov-14-10 09:00 AM
 
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No, Floyd wants testing within 7 days of the fight, thats the issue.
Nov 14th 2010
1
they agreed to 7 days
Nov 14th 2010
16
      floyd wants up until the fight. Olympic style
Nov 14th 2010
18
           This is the problem right here
Nov 15th 2010
78
it's a waste of time arguing bout it imo. the best thing for both sides
Nov 14th 2010
2
2 things
Nov 14th 2010
4
Vegas already had lines out during the previous negotiations, manny
Nov 14th 2010
8
I don't know what Floyd and Manny you've been watching...
Nov 14th 2010
6
dude i ain't reading all that shit or having a back and forth about a
Nov 14th 2010
10
      ^ what they fail to understand ^
Nov 14th 2010
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      ^^Vision isn't blurred, it's non-existent.^^
Nov 14th 2010
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      R.I.F. n/m.
Nov 14th 2010
15
thang is pac IZ beatable and HAS BEEN beat. pbf notsomuch
Nov 14th 2010
7
      floyd has lost multiple times as an amateur including 96 ATL
Nov 14th 2010
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           *dead* exactly
Nov 14th 2010
19
           What's even lamer is bringin' up PBF's loss(es) from > 14 yrs ago.
Nov 14th 2010
22
           Dude, amatuer fights and professional boxing are 2 different arenas.
Nov 14th 2010
20
           point is the losses are irrelevant to what would happen in the ring
Nov 14th 2010
23
                It appears that you did read my post from earlier in the thread, but
Nov 14th 2010
28
                     You're confused homie
Nov 14th 2010
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                     i stopped reading when u said i never saw floyd fight before
Nov 14th 2010
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           and-0
Nov 14th 2010
21
Very peresumptious post here^^^
Nov 14th 2010
3
^ what they fail to understand ^
Nov 14th 2010
5
JMM got a draw in the first fight
Nov 14th 2010
9
floyd spun it like they were forcing shane to fight clean to prove drug
Nov 14th 2010
11
JMM EARNED that draw in the ring, to hell with the judges score cards.
Nov 14th 2010
13
See what PBF did to JMM and get back to me
Nov 14th 2010
58
Floyd should keep ducking Manny for his own well being (swipe)
Nov 14th 2010
24
Freddie Roach: Margarito Will Probably Never Fight Again
Nov 14th 2010
25
damn so that's 3 careers Manny has ended recently?
Nov 14th 2010
27
Is Manny the GOAT - Kevin Ioie (swipe)
Nov 14th 2010
26
SPM, did you read alladat?^^^^
Nov 14th 2010
29
      yes. i'm just posting swipes. don't have an agenda on the matter
Nov 14th 2010
36
           lol - nga please..
Nov 14th 2010
42
lol smh ya'll gon' learn
Nov 14th 2010
31
Pac v Floyd in a nutshell
Nov 14th 2010
32
Pac-Man (52-3-2) vs Maywaether (41-0)
Nov 14th 2010
33
If I were Floyd I'd be waiting for Manny to slow down a bit too lol
Nov 14th 2010
34
Pretty much.
Nov 14th 2010
38
damn Marg has to stay in hospital until sunday night due to fractured
Nov 14th 2010
37
how cld somebody continue to take punches on a fractured face?
Nov 14th 2010
41
a) Floyd was right in the steroids negotiations fiasco
Nov 14th 2010
39
^
Nov 15th 2010
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And who the fuck does PBF think he is anyway
Nov 14th 2010
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foh. boxing guidelines for steroid testing suck.
Nov 14th 2010
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RE: foh. boxing guidelines for steroid testing suck.
Nov 14th 2010
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      I hear u but no one Floyd fought in the past drew that type of ...
Nov 15th 2010
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RE: And who the fuck does PBF think he is anyway
Nov 15th 2010
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LOL @ Max Kellermen giving Pac stans a built in excuse
Nov 14th 2010
45
who cosigned that shit? no one on the telecast or on here agreed
Nov 14th 2010
46
      He's as good of an instigator as Freddie Roach
Nov 14th 2010
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           naw i believe manny didn't take this camp seriously. he didn't even
Nov 14th 2010
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lol @ nga going bezerk cuz Pac beat washed up ass Margarito
Nov 14th 2010
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RE: lol @ nga going bezerk cuz Pac beat washed up ass Margarito
Nov 14th 2010
50
tell Pac to take them test... he clean right?
Nov 14th 2010
51
      Do you have amnesia?
Nov 14th 2010
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           they didn't agree to shit.
Nov 14th 2010
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                Zactly. My understanding is that Manny's camp agreed to accomodate
Nov 14th 2010
61
                     LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!
Nov 15th 2010
65
                          ETHER. and HBO execs already confirmed that Floyd camp was lying
Nov 15th 2010
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                          BOOM! Funny that none of these PBF supporting donkeys respond
Nov 15th 2010
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                          Like I said before...What about the purse split?
Nov 15th 2010
110
                          Oh...and since you're posting old links...keep this in mind...
Nov 15th 2010
115
I'm more impressed that Pac wiped the floor with a dude who was almost.....
Nov 14th 2010
54
Mayweather Must Fight or Leave The Country, Says Roach
Nov 14th 2010
52
lol @ roach talking about Floyd ducking margarito when he's on
Nov 15th 2010
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Jesus. Mannystans can't even enjoy dude's win on its own merits
Nov 14th 2010
55
Don King would have made this fight!!!
Nov 14th 2010
56
Don offered em $100 million. Floyd so scared he said NO THANKS!
Nov 14th 2010
59
      Link please!!!
Nov 14th 2010
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           LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!
Nov 15th 2010
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           RE: LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!LINKS!!
Nov 15th 2010
71
           this is directly off of floyds facebook page (pic)
Nov 15th 2010
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                you know that LOI was signed AFTER Manny/Margs had been booked
Nov 15th 2010
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                     RE: you know that LOI was signed AFTER Manny/Margs had been booked
Nov 15th 2010
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                     At this point, I'm past really caring
Nov 15th 2010
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                     No stan-itis here son
Nov 15th 2010
75
                          i give manny half credit for clottey. and floyd half credit for mosley
Nov 15th 2010
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                     The one who makes the statement, proves the statement.
Nov 16th 2010
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                     it was never signed. floyd still doesn't have an agreement with don
Nov 15th 2010
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FREE MAYWEATHER!
Nov 14th 2010
60
lmao
Nov 15th 2010
67
shall we pontificate on how inflated Pac's popularity is by HBO?
Nov 15th 2010
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i expect clottey numbers. manny is second only to floyd due to
Nov 15th 2010
79
Dog, u aint foolin nobody wit that Cotto/Mosley comparison. f.o.h.
Nov 17th 2010
161
      Yup! Mosley vs. Mayweather came in just under 1.5M buys...
Nov 17th 2010
193
RE: shall we pontificate on how inflated Pac's popularity is by HBO?
Nov 15th 2010
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Roach: I Want Pacquiao-Marquez, But at 147-Pounds
Nov 15th 2010
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i hope marquez loses his next fight then and retires. cause manny
Nov 15th 2010
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140 to make it interesting; 147 = a massacre
Nov 15th 2010
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      Do you think they would ask for 147
Nov 15th 2010
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           floyd agreed to 144, and came in heavy 2 lbs.
Nov 15th 2010
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                Context Big Mike....I know you don't like him but...
Nov 15th 2010
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                     That's more along the lines of what I was thinking
Nov 15th 2010
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                          Bent... It's inexact but there's no doubt that weight matters..
Nov 15th 2010
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                               dude stop it. if the rib injury was minor enough for him to fight thru i...
Nov 15th 2010
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                                    SP... Two lbs.. It happened.. What makes you think he didn't???
Nov 15th 2010
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                                         rib injury???
Nov 15th 2010
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                                              Wasn't intending snark either... We're good....
Nov 15th 2010
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Bitch move! Fuck Freddie Roach.
Nov 17th 2010
162
Arum's Plan To Make Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Happen
Nov 15th 2010
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it won't make it pass #1. Floyd is going say what he's been saying
Nov 15th 2010
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Sounds simple enough but Floyd wont answer #1 directly
Nov 15th 2010
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The Obligatory WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR
Nov 15th 2010
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BA just stop it man you cant just blame it all on Arum fams
Nov 15th 2010
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      base. dude acts like negotiations are 1 sided. even if arum is shady
Nov 15th 2010
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      Wrong. You're not reading again...
Nov 15th 2010
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           why is it spin? because it supports arum? yall even said the HBO execs
Nov 15th 2010
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                ^^^basically
Nov 19th 2010
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      Jae... That's my bias though...Arum hate..
Nov 15th 2010
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      It's funny because Pac fans here are taking your critique of Arum
Nov 15th 2010
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           simply because they don't like Floyd the personality
Nov 15th 2010
108
           No.
Nov 15th 2010
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           RE: It's funny because Pac fans here are taking your critique of Arum
Nov 15th 2010
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      If you read carefully...you'll see I'm not...
Nov 16th 2010
134
           And you've stated previously that PBF
Nov 16th 2010
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                ...and that's it in a nutshell
Nov 16th 2010
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                     I guess you never heard of Bernard Hopkins
Nov 16th 2010
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                          I guess you've never heard of Lou DiBella or GBP....
Nov 17th 2010
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                               Interesting reading
Nov 17th 2010
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                                    It proves my point.
Nov 17th 2010
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                                         RE: It proves my point.
Nov 17th 2010
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                                              Again...
Nov 17th 2010
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                                                   RE: Again...
Nov 17th 2010
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                                                        ---><---
Nov 17th 2010
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Im tired of this shit they aint fighting yall need to get over it
Nov 15th 2010
97
Spin and speculative but fine...your opinion..
Nov 15th 2010
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This is a lot simpler than people make it
Nov 15th 2010
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yea that's the elephant in the room floyd stans are ignoring
Nov 15th 2010
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Pac filed a defamation suit against the Mayweathers
Nov 15th 2010
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      there is absolutely ZERO evidence of manny ever cheating as far
Nov 15th 2010
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      Whatever did happen to that defamation suit?
Nov 15th 2010
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           Weak sauce, got dropped
Nov 15th 2010
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                Just like I said it would... The burden of proof is more stringent..
Nov 16th 2010
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It's hilarious that you think what you're saying is true.
Nov 15th 2010
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      See all this shit is just muddy waters
Nov 15th 2010
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           See....it's really not
Nov 15th 2010
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                It's never JUST about money man
Nov 15th 2010
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                     And that's what pissed me off the most about the Margarito fight
Nov 15th 2010
132
                     That's not a totally sound argument...
Nov 16th 2010
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                     I respect the way you're coming at this
Nov 16th 2010
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                          Thanks Pro... I really appreciate that
Nov 16th 2010
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                     .
Nov 17th 2010
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the one thing i never understood is how come floyd FANS don't want
Nov 15th 2010
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imagine if leonard vs duran I or II never happened.....
Nov 15th 2010
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Hagler was ROBBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!
Nov 15th 2010
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      yes.
Nov 15th 2010
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           Couldn't agree with you more....
Nov 15th 2010
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You're doing it again..... You're mindscaping...
Nov 15th 2010
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      dawg the money shit is the weakest plea cop to be honest. even if
Nov 15th 2010
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           It is to you because you don't earn that kind of money...
Nov 16th 2010
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the fight would go a little bit like this
Nov 15th 2010
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BA, you're point about Arum is acknowledged
Nov 15th 2010
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Thank You Fam. (answers inside)
Nov 16th 2010
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the problem with this is
Nov 16th 2010
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In short,,,Arum framed PBF as a coward to promote his fight
Nov 16th 2010
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      shane offered to go down in weight to desperately try to land the fight....
Nov 16th 2010
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           No. Freddie Roach said it himself.
Nov 16th 2010
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                It's funny how folks will shit on a video then rehash false information
Nov 16th 2010
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                     El... It's tiring... Cats fuck up the facts everytime...
Nov 17th 2010
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what arum is doing is kinda irrelevant when looking at what FLOYD
Nov 16th 2010
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Im just happy cats are starting to come to terms here
Nov 15th 2010
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 16th 2010
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Oh...and Bent... Shane ***NEVER*** tested positive for PEDs
Nov 16th 2010
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The PEDs house of cards is doomed to fall, one way or the other
Nov 16th 2010
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      I am gonna take a wild guess...
Nov 16th 2010
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      That's one possible viewpoint
Nov 16th 2010
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      damn ether
Nov 17th 2010
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      Murderous analogy fam... Thank You for saying this!!!!
Nov 17th 2010
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      No. Bent,,, Look up Victor Conte's comments regarding testing
Nov 17th 2010
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           RE: No. Bent,,, Look up Victor Conte's comments regarding testing
Nov 17th 2010
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           To your points...
Nov 17th 2010
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                Your right, the results are out there
Nov 17th 2010
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                It's about the *possibility* of them being tested up until the fight...
Nov 17th 2010
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                I thought he got cut in that fight
Nov 17th 2010
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                     Manny got cracked up in the first fight with Morales
Nov 17th 2010
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           Claims v Facts
Nov 17th 2010
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                no disrespect but you really are acting brand new with this shit
Nov 17th 2010
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                     Post #174
Nov 17th 2010
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                          The point is this....
Nov 17th 2010
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I can't believe people still think Pacquiao is on steroids/PEDs
Nov 17th 2010
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June '10 video of Mayweather Jr. ethering HIMSELF (link)
Nov 17th 2010
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haha. awesome.
Nov 17th 2010
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      HAHA... "Rocky Movie"
Nov 17th 2010
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Pacquiao/Margarito did 1.4 Million PPV buys (link)
Nov 17th 2010
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Mayweather Jr. ethers HIMSELF on video again...
Nov 18th 2010
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The money split theory
Nov 17th 2010
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floyd losing traction kinda doesn't matter tho. he'll fight whoever for
Nov 17th 2010
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      "^ what they fail to understand ^"
Nov 17th 2010
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      You know...this is speculative...but I'll allow it....
Nov 17th 2010
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           Most PBF fans don't want to see him fight anybody BUT Pac now
Nov 17th 2010
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           i wonder how long floyd and manny can keep this up
Nov 17th 2010
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                He still hasn't fought Cotto
Nov 17th 2010
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                     Cotto ducked PBF at 140 when they were both undefeated...
Nov 17th 2010
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                          dude stop wit this. floyd moved to 140 in 2004 and was OUT quickly
Nov 17th 2010
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                          No. what your saying is reprehensible.
Nov 17th 2010
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                               um all elite boxers are coddled. cmon
Nov 18th 2010
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                               No.
Nov 18th 2010
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                               No disrespect ADAM, but this arguement is BULLSHIT.
Nov 19th 2010
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                                    No offense taken...but the argument is far from bullshit...
Nov 19th 2010
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                          Yeah I have to agree with SPM on Cotto. That's the only one I think
Nov 17th 2010
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                               He went after the lineal titles at 147 after he left Arum
Nov 17th 2010
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Some time the boxing game reminds me of the rap game
Nov 17th 2010
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Conspiracy theory within.... and thanks for posting this Man!!
Nov 17th 2010
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floyd eeked out a split decision against DLH first of all
Nov 17th 2010
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      At *154*
Nov 17th 2010
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pac wins just off this vid (link)
Nov 17th 2010
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Side Post
Nov 17th 2010
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RE: Side Post
Nov 18th 2010
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^^^That's good shit!!!!!!!^^^^
Nov 17th 2010
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      "macho man, two words..."
Nov 18th 2010
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           Son..... Son..... I was dying.... I have no words
Nov 18th 2010
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Tips my hat to Black Adam
Nov 18th 2010
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Again... we're ---><---
Nov 18th 2010
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      20/20
Nov 18th 2010
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           Very Interesting.......
Nov 18th 2010
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                I just discount Williams
Nov 18th 2010
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                     Still ---><---
Nov 18th 2010
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                     neither pac or Mayweather has any business fighting Paul Williams
Nov 18th 2010
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Hagler to Manny: "don't let floyd duck u like Ray Ray ducked me"
Nov 18th 2010
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I still want Hagler to beat SRL's ass
Nov 18th 2010
219
Marvelous see's it:
Nov 19th 2010
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