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"Espn Poll: Player you would take ahead of Dirk to start a franchise?"


          

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/ballot?event_id=2206

Is Dirk really that good because they have him ahead of a lot people like Tim Duncan and Shaquille O'neal. He is very good, but there a lot of players I would start a franchise with before him.

  

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Espn Poll: Player you would take ahead of Dirk to start a franchise? [View all] , imyded, Fri Jun-02-06 07:31 PM
 
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why are Chauncey and Jermaine ONeal even options?
Jun 02nd 2006
1
I'd take Jermaine over Dirk.
Jun 02nd 2006
3
      Me too
Jun 02nd 2006
4
      O'Neal=more complete; Dirk=better overall ... Moss/Ward revisited
Jun 02nd 2006
5
      Wrong.
Jun 02nd 2006
7
           nitpicking.
Jun 02nd 2006
11
           Meaning?
Jun 02nd 2006
12
                YES! And Dirk gets a pass for not winning with sick teams
Jun 02nd 2006
15
                Dirk's teammates are sick this year?
Jun 02nd 2006
22
                     So tell me this...
Jun 03rd 2006
29
                     tell me this
Jun 03rd 2006
31
                          That GPF wasn't completely healthy for one
Jun 03rd 2006
53
                               That unhealthy GPF averaged 32 points and 12 rebs in that series
Jun 03rd 2006
64
                                    Which is why he's called the best in the game
Jun 03rd 2006
112
                                         and?
Jun 04th 2006
141
                                              Yall the ones who brought Duncan into this
Jun 04th 2006
143
                                                   1. I didn't bring Duncan into this
Jun 04th 2006
150
                                                        And?
Jun 04th 2006
154
                                                             right, you're not arguing
Jun 04th 2006
158
                     RE: Dirk's teammates are sick this year?
Jun 05th 2006
190
                In the last two years, J 'O Neal has played:
Jun 02nd 2006
24
                I know I'm real late to this but JO is a SHITTY defender
Jun 21st 2006
245
           I'll take Dirk
Jun 02nd 2006
21
           You're just arguing for argument's sake
Jun 02nd 2006
25
           co-sign
Jun 03rd 2006
61
           are you even watching the playoffs?
Jun 03rd 2006
62
      How is a player's defense measured?
Jun 02nd 2006
17
      that might be the single dumbest thing you ever said on these boards
Jun 03rd 2006
27
      Like seriously. Who am I to value defense?
Jun 03rd 2006
30
           i like the convenient and false categories
Jun 03rd 2006
32
                This is a bad post, even for you.
Jun 03rd 2006
40
                RE: This is a bad post, even for you.
Jun 03rd 2006
46
                ummm...where did you get Dirk being a better rebounder than J. O'Neal?
Jun 03rd 2006
58
                     The same place they came up with everything else.
Jun 03rd 2006
68
                     from reality
Jun 03rd 2006
69
                          **Scratches head**
Jun 03rd 2006
73
                               let me give you a hint
Jun 03rd 2006
74
                                    LMMFAO!!!!!!
Jun 03rd 2006
77
                                         ^^favorite rapper is Big L
Jun 03rd 2006
78
                                         LMMFAO!!!! PLEA COPPPPAGGEE!!!!!!!
Jun 03rd 2006
80
                                              he specifically said "LIGHT YEARS"
Jun 05th 2006
175
                                         including the playoffs, Dirk's been a better rebounder this season
Jun 03rd 2006
92
                                              Okay. So do you think Dirk is a better rebounder than O'neal?
Jun 03rd 2006
100
                                                   I think incl. the playoffs, Dirk's been a better rebounder this season
Jun 03rd 2006
107
                                                        Okay, so do you think Dirk is a better rebounder than Jermaine?
Jun 03rd 2006
109
                                                             I think incl. the playoffs, Dirk's been a better rebounder this season
Jun 04th 2006
142
                                                                  C'mon. You can do better than this, kiddo.
Jun 04th 2006
163
                                                                       simple question: is Dirk's season over yet?
Jun 05th 2006
188
      you'd take jermaine cause he's black...be honest..
Jun 03rd 2006
43
           You're right. I'd take Brian Grant over Nowitzki.
Jun 03rd 2006
67
                but that's the thing...
Jun 03rd 2006
82
                You're not big enough to sit at the table.
Jun 03rd 2006
86
                     he's more unguardable than any of those you listed...
Jun 03rd 2006
91
                     I Was Gonna Let This Slide But
Jun 04th 2006
130
                     "he's more unguardable than any of those you listed..."
Jun 21st 2006
253
                     *buzzer sounds*
Jun 03rd 2006
93
                          hahaha i was gonna let that one slide...
Jun 03rd 2006
94
                               Burn slow.
Jun 03rd 2006
96
                                    oh, so stats determine everything now?
Jun 03rd 2006
101
                                         LMMFAO!!!! ^^^STEAMING MAD!!!!
Jun 03rd 2006
103
                                              lol one thing
Jun 03rd 2006
117
                                              What's so ironic about 40Street's argument with you is...
Jun 04th 2006
157
                                                   nope.
Jun 04th 2006
160
                                                        LOL, you still are skipping my point
Jun 04th 2006
162
                                                             dude, I'm going by your EXACT WORDS
Jun 05th 2006
189
                                                                  LMFAO!
Jun 06th 2006
205
                                                                       seriously, WTF are you talking about?
Jun 06th 2006
209
                                                                            Man, just jump to the conversation below
Jun 06th 2006
211
                kirilenko is a freak of nature though
Jun 06th 2006
202
current results
Jun 02nd 2006
2
Elton Brand>>>Dirk
Jun 02nd 2006
6
Basically
Jun 02nd 2006
13
you must mean besides KG, Tim D & Amare. nm
Jun 02nd 2006
14
      TD IS A CENTER!!!!!!
Jun 02nd 2006
26
Dirk is the single most overrated player in the league, that's proof
Jun 03rd 2006
38
the "Dirk is soft & wants to live around the 3 pt line" ship has sailed
Jun 03rd 2006
66
get the fuck outta here Longo...
Jun 03rd 2006
83
dayum nigga maybe dirk is more hated than kobe on here lmao
Jun 03rd 2006
118
      lol...
Jun 04th 2006
165
so.. basically, dirk gets knocked for having good management
Jun 06th 2006
203
Garnett>>>>>Dirk
Jun 05th 2006
191
RE: Espn Poll: Player you would take ahead of Dirk to start a franchise?
Jun 02nd 2006
8
howard, paul, bosh & a healthy amare...over ivan drago. nm
Jun 02nd 2006
9
Again, he has extremely good talent all around him and a bench
Jun 02nd 2006
10
are we considering age?
Jun 02nd 2006
19
lol, just admit your hate and keep it movin'.
Jun 03rd 2006
44
But see, you're coppin pleas for him
Jun 03rd 2006
54
      yeah, nobody cops pleas for Kobe or Nash
Jun 04th 2006
149
you realize he's Dallas' leading rebounder, right?
Jun 03rd 2006
71
A good 7 footer leading his team in rebounds... WOW!!
Jun 03rd 2006
111
      so in other words, you were wrong
Jun 04th 2006
140
           Why are yall making up arguments?
Jun 04th 2006
144
                why can't you read what the argument is actually about?
Jun 04th 2006
147
                     You're talking in circles
Jun 04th 2006
155
                          no, you were changing the argument around
Jun 04th 2006
161
                               RE: no, you were changing the argument around
Jun 04th 2006
164
                                    ok, this is turning into a good discussion now
Jun 05th 2006
192
                                         Yes, we're getting to the meat of it all now.
Jun 06th 2006
207
                                              RE: Yes, we're getting to the meat of it all now.
Jun 06th 2006
220
right, cause magic and bird and isaiah all won with garbage teams
Jun 06th 2006
204
Dirk is good,but the League wants a Modern Larry Bird
Jun 02nd 2006
16
Ginobli?!?!
Jun 03rd 2006
76
White people
Jun 02nd 2006
18
LeBron's the only one over 50%?
Jun 02nd 2006
20
its kind of impossible for there to be two players with more than 50%
Jun 03rd 2006
106
      LMFAO!!!
Jun 03rd 2006
122
      ^^^dumb + dumber
Jun 03rd 2006
123
      check the poll again
Jun 03rd 2006
124
He is tailor made to DOMINATE the new rules NBA
Jun 02nd 2006
23
^^not lying
Jun 03rd 2006
33
all the anti-dirk people are right
Jun 03rd 2006
28
You're pushing against an open door.
Jun 03rd 2006
34
c'mon, man.
Jun 03rd 2006
51
      Artest>>>>>Dirk
Jun 03rd 2006
84
           i stand corrected.
Jun 03rd 2006
102
wooooooa - now I've become a Dirk fan these playoffs but
Jun 03rd 2006
36
Exactly. Dude's 'Free Nowitzki' movement is out of hand.
Jun 03rd 2006
37
read, people.
Jun 03rd 2006
47
      Dawg, in the last 6 years or maybe more...
Jun 03rd 2006
55
      comical. n/m
Jun 03rd 2006
59
      That's a well-rounded dosage of retarded-ness.
Jun 03rd 2006
70
      ^^^out of bad arguments
Jun 03rd 2006
72
           You, on the other hand, have them by the dozens.
Jun 03rd 2006
75
                ^^has amnesia
Jun 03rd 2006
79
                     LMMFAO!!!!!! ABANDON SHIP!!!!!
Jun 03rd 2006
81
                          wow, who made that argument?
Jun 03rd 2006
87
                          Shell's made that sad point about Dwayne Wade.
Jun 03rd 2006
98
                               co-sign on all counts.
Jun 03rd 2006
119
                               here's what we know about kobe for sure
Jun 04th 2006
127
                                    *winces*
Jun 04th 2006
128
                                    but so right
Jun 04th 2006
129
                                         you sure you're not the only one who sees him that way?
Jun 04th 2006
131
                                    WOW, there are trainwrecks all over this post
Jun 21st 2006
246
                                         forgive him, he was drunk.
Jun 22nd 2006
265
                          WOW ^^^^^ THIS IS A MURKING ^^^^^
Jun 04th 2006
138
      Oh I read it alright
Jun 04th 2006
139
So Dirk affects the game more than Shaq?
Jun 03rd 2006
39
      Batman could beat Superman with ample prep time.
Jun 03rd 2006
41
      I think he's getting even more love than necessary.
Jun 03rd 2006
42
      HE DOESN'T HAVE AN AVERSION TO PLAYING IN THE PAINT
Jun 03rd 2006
85
           Dawg, he's still jump shooting all day
Jun 03rd 2006
114
                DON'T TALK SENSE, NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR IT
Jun 07th 2006
241
      on OKS, Dirk needs to be defended
Jun 03rd 2006
50
      ^^^goes to Duke but can't read
Jun 03rd 2006
49
I picked Lebron and Wade
Jun 03rd 2006
35
^^^Ignore the retardness in the rest of this thread and just read this
Jun 04th 2006
152
THANK YOU !
Jun 22nd 2006
264
Dirk is good. Let's leave at that.
Jun 03rd 2006
45
Brand is getting shat on in this poll
Jun 03rd 2006
48
Could it be because he's made the playoffs once?
Jun 04th 2006
132
      Come on Man
Jun 04th 2006
148
           I don't hate Brand WHATSOEVER.
Jun 04th 2006
159
one great post season does not make a God, you know
Jun 03rd 2006
52
Of the list ESPN had, here's the complete list I'd take over him
Jun 03rd 2006
56
Do you realize ESPN got y'all again?
Jun 03rd 2006
57
REAL TALK!:
Jun 03rd 2006
60
he's averaging 29 points & 12 boards in the playoffs
Jun 03rd 2006
97
      Who is?
Jun 03rd 2006
99
           the guy I responded to
Jun 03rd 2006
104
                Lol. You sound like the National Inquirer.
Jun 03rd 2006
105
                     LOL. You sound like Fox Mulder.
Jun 03rd 2006
116
                     O_E...seriously...
Jun 04th 2006
166
                          LMMFAO!!!! What type of retarded drivel is that?
Jun 05th 2006
173
                               LOL you giving the rest of the mavs team so much credit
Jun 05th 2006
174
                                    You're not big enough to sit at the table.
Jun 05th 2006
178
                                         you're just lying now
Jun 05th 2006
180
                                              Lol. Now you're just copping pleas.
Jun 05th 2006
181
                                                   here let's try this!
Jun 05th 2006
185
Not Just ESPN, Sports Media In General
Jun 03rd 2006
63
      RE: Not Just ESPN, Sports Media In General
Jun 03rd 2006
65
PJ Brown >>> Dirk
Jun 03rd 2006
88
Kenyon Martin >>> Dirk
Jun 03rd 2006
89
you ae *clearly* hating for hate's sake now
Jun 06th 2006
201
      he was joking.
Jun 06th 2006
222
Donyell Marshall >>> Dirk
Jun 03rd 2006
90
players i would trade dirk for...
Jun 03rd 2006
95
wtf is going on?
Jun 03rd 2006
108
The irony in this post is delicious.
Jun 03rd 2006
110
      RE: The irony in this post is delicious.
Jun 03rd 2006
113
           You are, hands down, the biggest hater in this post.
Jun 03rd 2006
115
bron, wade, mamba24, duncan, brand. that's it.
Jun 03rd 2006
120
U know what's funny about Dirk's 50 point game in game 5?
Jun 03rd 2006
121
Lach, didn't Thomas hit 6 uncontested 3's?
Jun 03rd 2006
125
See, yall keep making arguments that just aren't there
Jun 04th 2006
134
      RE: See, yall keep making arguments that just aren't there
Jun 04th 2006
145
           But Kobe hate is real...
Jun 04th 2006
156
um tim thomas been doing that the whole playoffs
Jun 04th 2006
135
Dirk haters conveniently forget that he can get to the line at will
Jun 04th 2006
126
Who Said All That?
Jun 04th 2006
151
      O_E did, actually
Jun 04th 2006
153
man, the media needs they white heroes don't they?
Jun 04th 2006
133
so many problems with your arguments
Jun 04th 2006
136
you just wanna be literal, don't you?
Jun 04th 2006
146
      uhhh...he's a power forward...
Jun 04th 2006
167
           if dirk's a pf
Jun 04th 2006
172
worst response in the post
Jun 04th 2006
169
      7 foot shooting guard lmfao
Jun 04th 2006
171
Lebron. that's pretty much it
Jun 04th 2006
137
Lebron, Shaq, Duncan (maybe)
Jun 04th 2006
168
Chris Bosh
Jun 04th 2006
170
lol@all the whiteboys hopping from Nash to the Dirk bandwagon
Jun 05th 2006
176
such as?
Jun 05th 2006
177
and just as predictable
Jun 05th 2006
179
The biggest Dirk hate in this thread is from Frank Longo.
Jun 05th 2006
182
how white is 40thStreetBlack?
Jun 05th 2006
183
      I'm going to resist throwing down that alley-oop.
Jun 05th 2006
184
      lucky for you, cuz I'd stuff the shit outta your weak ass if you tried
Jun 05th 2006
196
      pasty
Jun 05th 2006
186
           more beige, actually
Jun 05th 2006
198
nobody is bashing Dirk, they're just telling it like it is
Jun 05th 2006
187
      telling it like it is?
Jun 05th 2006
199
           are we talking about on BOTH ends of the court?
Jun 06th 2006
200
                we are talking about IMPACT, period.
Jun 06th 2006
206
                dirk averages 6 more points than Jermaine O'Neal, O'Neals impact...
Jun 06th 2006
210
                     are you even watching the playoffs?
Jun 06th 2006
214
                          Tim Thomas had big numbers in the playoffs too, AGAINST Dirk
Jun 06th 2006
215
                               yeah man
Jun 06th 2006
217
                               ^^^totally missed the point AGAIN
Jun 06th 2006
218
                                    columbo, sherlock holmes and magnum PI together
Jun 06th 2006
221
                               tim thomas had big numbers against everyone
Jun 06th 2006
224
                               TT averaged more against Elton than Dirk
Jun 06th 2006
226
                                    IMPOSSIBLE ELTON IS SO MUCH BETTER...
Jun 06th 2006
229
                               yeah, those 26 pts really matched up well against Dirk's 50 & 12
Jun 06th 2006
225
                                    at the end of the day, Dirk still averaged only 6 more points than J. O'...
Jun 06th 2006
227
                                         who cares if his team won?
Jun 06th 2006
228
                                         Put O'Neal on the Mavs, and they're undefeated in the playoffs
Jun 06th 2006
230
                                         watching the finals will be interesting
Jun 06th 2006
231
                                         I guess your one of those people who thinks Horry is a Hall of Famer
Jun 07th 2006
240
                                         @ end of the day, Dirk avg 28 &12 in the playoffs &led Dal to the finals
Jun 06th 2006
232
                                              Which Is True
Jun 06th 2006
234
                                                   o'neal's had artest, reggie, harrington, brad miller, tinsley
Jun 06th 2006
235
                                                   ^^^REAL TALK
Jun 07th 2006
239
                Damn, dog, JO is a pedestrian pseudo-allstar, pick someone else
Jun 21st 2006
248
lol @ you hating on Dirk because he's white
Jun 06th 2006
233
      if you READ the post below that one you might get it
Jun 07th 2006
238
anybody remember a few years back when Mike Bibby had a great...
Jun 05th 2006
193
dirk>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike bibby...
Jun 05th 2006
194
its still the same principle, every year some player has a great...
Jun 05th 2006
195
      except that this isn't blown out of proportion...
Jun 05th 2006
197
ok, now you're just being fucking retarded
Jun 06th 2006
208
Having good teams makes people blind sometimes
Jun 06th 2006
212
yep, you're right...good teams mean the players not good...
Jun 06th 2006
216
      You guys just don't get "it"
Jun 06th 2006
219
           no, you're not...
Jun 06th 2006
223
I hope the Mavs play the Rockets next year in the playoffs
Jun 07th 2006
237
i love how some guys just CANT win with you people
Jun 06th 2006
213
it's simple really:
Jun 06th 2006
236
Come and get your L, and a cookie.
Jun 20th 2006
242
Longo Won.
Jun 21st 2006
243
You mean, "Frank Ongo Won."
Jun 21st 2006
244
      No problem, Orbit_Estabished.
Jun 21st 2006
247
do you have any samoas?
Jun 21st 2006
249
I gotta a secret to tell you:
Jun 21st 2006
250
      ^^^REAL TALK
Jun 21st 2006
251
      he wasn't soft for the last 6 months
Jun 21st 2006
252
           I'm actually going to defend Dirk here.
Jun 21st 2006
254
                RE: I'm actually going to defend Dirk here.
Jun 21st 2006
255
                     Dirk had that ONE weak-ass drive that he SHOULD have dunked...
Jun 21st 2006
256
                     lmao
Jun 21st 2006
257
                          the quote in your sig is hilarious, what post is that from?
Jun 21st 2006
258
                               the game 6 post
Jun 21st 2006
259
                     I'm Gonna Give You Props Shells
Jun 21st 2006
260
                          I'll cosign that.
Jun 21st 2006
261
                               dirk made me a liar. watch the hate FLOW next season.
Jun 21st 2006
262
yeah, if Dallas had Jermaine O'Neal they'd have swept Miami
Jun 22nd 2006
263

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