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"Len Pasquerelli drop etherous truth on running quarterbacks"


  

          

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2277589

In his 128 regular-season appearances, Peyton Manning has averaged fewer than two rushes per game and less than three yards per carry, and his résumé includes exactly one run of more than 20 yards on his 246 career forays outside the pocket.

That makes the Indianapolis Colts star and two-time league most valuable player one of the least productive running quarterbacks in recent NFL history. It also makes Manning a candidate to win a Super Bowl title, perhaps as early as in five weeks.

How come? Because over the last several playoff series, about the only running that the new-wave "athletic" quarterbacks who were supposed to take over the league seem to have done is scrambling to secure a prime perch in front of the big screen television, to view the postseason as a spectator. Guys who stand tall in the pocket, it seems, tend to stand tall in the playoffs as well. And the notion that the pure passing quarterback has become passé in the NFL seems to have been debunked, particularly when it comes to winning Super Bowl championships.


Uh, anyone seen the mercurial Michael Vick, the sport's most electrifying performer but a quarterback whose team will be home for the playoffs, sporting a Super Bowl ring? One of the guest panelists on "The Sports Reporters" on ESPN early Sunday morning termed Vick the leader of "the ongoing evolution" at the quarterback position.


What evolution? There is only one Vick and his rushing yards for 2005 were down by one-third over last season. The three quarterbacks who each rushed for over 200 yards in 2005 posted a combined starting record of 13-31. If anything, the supposed advance of the more athletic quarterback has become a de-evolution.


By the time the playoffs arrive, running quarterbacks are usually running on empty. On the flip side, it's more than coincidence that eight of the top 12 passers in the league for 2005 are headed to the playoffs.


"Let's face it, there aren't that many athletic quarterbacks, and that's just how it is," said Tampa Bay director of pro personnel Mark Dominik.


In the playoff version of NFL Darwinism, a lack of athleticism and inability to improvise are hardly fatal flaws. Fact is, survival during the postseason characteristically goes to the quarterback with the fittest arm, not the fastest feet. And for Manning, the premier pocket passer of the current era, that's a plus, as the Colts try to finally win the Super Bowl for which they also contended the past three seasons.


"You aren't going to win Super Bowls with your quarterback running all over the place," allowed Carolina quarterback Jake Delhomme. "You might make a play or two, but that's about it. Think about it, can you remember a big run by a quarterback in a Super Bowl? It's not very easy to do. Quarterbacks who win the Super Bowl almost always win it by making big passing plays."


In 39 Super Bowl games, there have been just 10 rushing touchdowns by quarterbacks, and Elway scored four of those. Of those 10 touchdown runs, the average score was for 2.6 yards and none was longer than six yards.


Want more evidence that Super Bowl rings are usually won by quarterbacks who stay in the pocket and not those who stray up field? Consider this: Not since 1997, when Elway rushed for 218 yards during the season, has the Super Bowl been won by a quarterback who posted even 100 yards rushing in the regular season. The last seven Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks averaged a microscopic 60.7 rushing yards during the regular season and none had more than 94 yards.


Given the dozen slow-footed slingers that comprise the starting quarterback pool for the 2005 playoffs, count on Super Bowl XL being won by a pocket passer.


The 12 starters for this year's postseason (and we are assuming that Byron Leftwich will replace David Garrard in the Jacksonville lineup for the playoffs) averaged 27.7 carries, 66.8 yards and 1.1 touchdowns during the season. Half of them rushed for fewer than 50 yards in 2005 and only three of them had a single rush of 20 yards or more. Heck, two of them didn't even have a single 10-yard run.




AP Photo/Tom Uhlman
The not-so-fleet of foot Peyton Manning should feel right at home during the playoffs.
Only three of the starters -- Jake Plummer (Denver), Mark Brunell (Washington) and Matt Hasselbeck (Seattle) -- had more than 100 rushing yards. Rex Grossman of Chicago, who missed a combined 27 starts the past two seasons because of knee and ankle injuries, had no rushes for the season. Certainly the Bears starter understands the prudent nature of leaving the running offense to the guys paid to run the football, and remaining inside the pocket cocoon.


And he's not alone in that regard.


"It helps some to be able to run," said Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, whose three touchdowns on the ground in 2005 lead all playoff quarterbacks. "But traditionally, you don't get much (running) outside the pocket in the playoffs. It's a time when you try to play to your strengths. For most quarterbacks, running isn't a strong point, is it?"


None of this is to suggest that running teams won't win in the postseason, just that clubs want the running game to be led by the people paid to grind out yards, not those who earn big bucks for tossing the ball around. Quarterbacks are about flingin', not feet, and the playoffs of the last several years certainly reinforce that.


Defenses eventually catch up to running quarterbacks, as does age and wisdom, and that is obvious in this year's playoff starters. Brunell was once a terrific scrambler, and his 2,399 career rushing yards easily lead the rest of the 2005 playoff quarterbacks. Brunell, though, hasn't posted a 250-yard rushing season since 1997 and, at age 35, his legs aren't as spry as earlier in his career. Plummer hasn't exactly gone from being Jake the Snake to Jake the Snail, given that his rushing yards on average are only down by 11 yards during his three seasons in Denver, but he is hardly the scrambler he once was in Arizona.


"You get older," said Plummer, "and two things happen: You get a lot slower and you get a lot smarter."


Now, that is the true evolution at the quarterback position that seems to count the most in the playoffs. Manning actually ran for 157 yards and 148 yards, respectively, in 2001 and 2002, but has totaled just 109 rushing yards in the three seasons since. And in that stretch, the Colts star has emerged as a premier passer, a skill that, more than any feat of the feet, is apt to be his playoff calling card.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.†(c) The God

  

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Len Pasquerelli drop etherous truth on running quarterbacks [View all] , bshelly, Mon Jan-02-06 01:58 PM
 
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*Ducks as Vick fans run in post*
Jan 02nd 2006
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yeah, this is going to be fun
Jan 02nd 2006
2
      'And so it begins' (c) Theoden in Lord of the Rings lol
Jan 02nd 2006
4
      not my fault you're dumb enough to think
Jan 02nd 2006
10
           Here YOU go... like the defense was that bad
Jan 02nd 2006
75
                you obviously didn't watch the game
Jan 03rd 2006
161
                     I was actually at that game folk
Jan 03rd 2006
164
                          you'r becoming sad with the hate son
Jan 03rd 2006
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                          Let me be straight up and honest -
Jan 03rd 2006
221
                               you don't like michael vick. it has nothing to do with his play on the f...
Jan 03rd 2006
234
                          one bad game? you didn't see deshaun foster butt fuck the falcons
Jan 03rd 2006
170
                               you mean the same Deshaun Foster
Jan 03rd 2006
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                               actually its not the same deshaun foster
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                    Atlanta Run D = RB Power ups alah Madden Cards...
Jan 04th 2006
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                               I do have a question though...
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                    if you;re going to ask "one more question"
Jan 03rd 2006
236
                                         To answer your question - yes, I saw them
Jan 04th 2006
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                                              you saw them get BUTT FUCKED, right?
Jan 04th 2006
259
      here's a bit of evidence
Jan 02nd 2006
11
           Tell'em NB !
Jan 02nd 2006
89
                Would've, Could've, Should've
Jan 02nd 2006
100
Orbit drops etherous truth on Pasquerelli
Jan 02nd 2006
3
no, it's really just the truth
Jan 02nd 2006
6
yeah that worked out really well this season
Jan 02nd 2006
7
he got killed because andy reid won't run the fucking ball
Jan 02nd 2006
28
      peyton mannings lack of mobility is a bigger factor in
Jan 02nd 2006
34
           of course you'd prefer it
Jan 02nd 2006
36
                thats simply not true.
Jan 02nd 2006
39
                esp since throwing like Peyton Manning
Jan 02nd 2006
45
                     the facts don't matter here.
Jan 02nd 2006
74
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 15th 2006
274
                SB Rings: Dilfer 1 > Manning 0
Jan 02nd 2006
46
                     Wonder why you have no replies?
Jan 02nd 2006
84
                     and there it is
Jan 02nd 2006
112
No one ever said you shouldn't be able to throw the ball
Jan 02nd 2006
15
Tarkenton is only known as a running QB
Jan 02nd 2006
17
I'm waiting for someone to make the
Jan 02nd 2006
20
      Garrad was white there would be trade Leftwich articles
Jan 02nd 2006
24
      I definitely heard "will Daunte get his starting job back" talk...
Jan 02nd 2006
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           They are talking about shipping him off
Jan 02nd 2006
73
                Nobody said that...
Jan 02nd 2006
129
                     SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH read below
Jan 03rd 2006
168
      Leftwich is clearly a running QB
Jan 02nd 2006
29
           He runs to the fridge
Jan 02nd 2006
78
                ^Instant Classic^
Jan 02nd 2006
107
You make a good point
Jan 02nd 2006
27
Lol. You are pushing against an open door, you fucking imbecile.
Jan 02nd 2006
25
You Pwned this guy....
Jan 02nd 2006
50
who are you?
Jan 02nd 2006
58
      I DON'T KNOW???!!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!
Jan 02nd 2006
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           i laughed.
Jan 03rd 2006
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Vick is not a good pocket passer though
Jan 02nd 2006
51
Its okay to agree with me, you know.
Jan 02nd 2006
67
      Geez Louise, George, Tom, and Helen
Jan 02nd 2006
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      he's not into the whole brevity thing.
Jan 02nd 2006
81
      it's okay to stick to the actual argument, too.
Jan 02nd 2006
80
           Oh, Come on, mang.
Jan 02nd 2006
83
                your mind is playing tricks on ya
Jan 02nd 2006
133
fuck
Jan 02nd 2006
65
      I'll hand you the L now then.
Jan 02nd 2006
68
           nah
Jan 02nd 2006
69
           A post so trife you had to make it twice.
Jan 02nd 2006
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           nah
Jan 02nd 2006
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                A post so trife you had to make it twice
Jan 02nd 2006
72
RE: no, it's really just the truth
Jan 05th 2006
266
Vick went 8-8 and got guiled yesterday
Jan 02nd 2006
47
are the colts and falcons teams of equal talent?
Jan 02nd 2006
54
No, The Falcons went 8-8
Jan 02nd 2006
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      RE: No, The Falcons went 8-8
Jan 02nd 2006
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      who else were they supposed to select?
Jan 02nd 2006
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      Griese last year
Jan 02nd 2006
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           maybe
Jan 03rd 2006
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           The Falcons were 11-5 Greise was not a fulltime starter
Jan 03rd 2006
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      RE: No, The Falcons went 8-8
Jan 02nd 2006
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      Aain, no reply..
Jan 02nd 2006
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      Hmn...
Jan 02nd 2006
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           I'm not really comparing QBs
Jan 02nd 2006
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                Think about it...
Jan 02nd 2006
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                     That might be the case
Jan 02nd 2006
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      dude. all due respect. he has GREG FUCKING KNAPP as his OC.
Jan 05th 2006
268
      When has a brother playing QB ever gotten a pass?
Jan 02nd 2006
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           the closest thing was McNabb this year
Jan 03rd 2006
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                media turned back on him as soon as the eagles started losing tho
Jan 03rd 2006
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                McNabb didn't get a pass. The if we had Farve shit was a joke
Jan 03rd 2006
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                     i.e. 'closest thing'
Jan 03rd 2006
230
Great points ..
Jan 02nd 2006
91
RE: Orbit drops etherous truth on Pasquerelli
Jan 05th 2006
265
so wait.... len must watch less games than O_E
Jan 02nd 2006
5
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Jan 02nd 2006
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and to be totally honest
Jan 02nd 2006
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      That's the NFL's dirty secret:
Jan 02nd 2006
      In the 03 AFC championship game
Jan 02nd 2006
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           AND edge was averagin somethin like 6 yards/carry
Jan 02nd 2006
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      one truth at a time
Jan 02nd 2006
114
Hold up, Steve Young was a running QB
Jan 02nd 2006
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Steve Young is the wrong color to be a Running QB
Jan 02nd 2006
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Steve Young was the highest rated QB in NFL history
Jan 02nd 2006
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      RE: Steve Young was the highest rated QB in NFL history
Jan 02nd 2006
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           he also had the highest passer rating in NFL history
Jan 02nd 2006
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                one might argue Young doesn't get the chance to pass that much
Jan 03rd 2006
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Was there a point to this article?
Jan 02nd 2006
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BULLSHIT
Jan 02nd 2006
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He's trying to shit on QB's who can't throw
Jan 02nd 2006
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Outside of Boller & Alex Smith name me a QB who cant throw?
Jan 02nd 2006
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      Vick can't do it consistently
Jan 02nd 2006
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           Those 2 have never done it
Jan 02nd 2006
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                David Carr is a bad example
Jan 02nd 2006
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                     Bullshit. Why should give him a pass when brothers don't get
Jan 02nd 2006
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                          Who would succeed behind that O-Line?
Jan 02nd 2006
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                               I don't give a fuck! Make a fucking play! 1 fucking play.
Jan 02nd 2006
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                               Who can make a play with no time?
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                    He holds the ball too long
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                    He won't let go of the fucking ball!
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                         Watch some Texans games
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                              I have
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                              On a couple of them
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                                   Huh?
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                                        Not if once he gets time
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                                             Huh? Part Deux
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                                                  I'll explain it like this...
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                              I have!!! He won't throw the ball
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                    David Carr and Browns QBs before this year
Jan 03rd 2006
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                               lmBao. vick was 2nd to carr in sacks last year. i think he may have
Jan 05th 2006
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no point at all
Jan 02nd 2006
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This isn't news but the fact is a double threat QB is much better
Jan 02nd 2006
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this board is right on the cusp of killing the term 'etherous'
Jan 02nd 2006
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i propose Willy Nilly be the new flavor of the week
Jan 02nd 2006
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      ^^^POWERFUL UNDERSTANDING OF THE ART OF SLANG
Jan 02nd 2006
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It's amazing how Pasquerelli forgot to mention
Jan 02nd 2006
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I love how he gave Indy the SB already
Jan 02nd 2006
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I'm rooting for the colts....
Jan 02nd 2006
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      I actually don't mind them
Jan 02nd 2006
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      I want them to win too
Jan 02nd 2006
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right!
Jan 02nd 2006
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      All these grown ass men crying
Jan 02nd 2006
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I've had this discussion before..
Jan 02nd 2006
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so in your opinion if a quarterback is athletic
Jan 02nd 2006
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Your smartass skills are getting slack.
Jan 02nd 2006
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      nothing you said was relevant to the conversation
Jan 02nd 2006
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           And what part was supposedly false?
Jan 02nd 2006
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                how old is doug flutie?
Jan 02nd 2006
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                     you mean that quarterback...
Jan 02nd 2006
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                     as I recall, he played well and succesfully in the CFL
Jan 02nd 2006
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                          and Tommy Maddox played well for the XFL.
Jan 02nd 2006
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                               no, I compare playing many years at that size and mobility
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                    um, Flutie played in the NFL before going there:
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                         so in your opinion nfl scouts agree with me
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                              after he'd been pro for 12 years, yes.
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                   but wait, you just said he started his career in the nfl
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                        you guys have ZERO o_e game points
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                        how about, he just wasn't that good then?
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                             so you agree that actual nfl personnel think 5'10 180
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                                  you have quite a knack...
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                                       the question is whether nfl personnel think a 5'10 180 qb
Jan 03rd 2006
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                     Pennington originally hurt his shoulder on a scramble out of the pocket
Jan 03rd 2006
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                          key words *this season, thank you.
Jan 03rd 2006
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                               his shoulder was already hurt chief from getting hurt scrambling
Jan 03rd 2006
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                               where did he take the hit that probably ended his career this season
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                    sniffing coke? what are you talking about?
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                         well if you're not sniffing coke then you really have no excuse for such...
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                              Um, he had surgery for a torn rotator cuff
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                   somehow drew brees managed to fuck up his shoulder despite not having
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                        2 different players, 2 different plays
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                             and 2 different injuries
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                             if chad pennington hurt his shoulder crossing the street you'd be right
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                                  so you're right and team doctors are wrong?
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                                       some QB's can scramble....
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                                            No shit, but that doesnt have anything
Jan 03rd 2006
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                               stattic already handled this for me, but just to elaborate:
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                    and that's a wrap (c) Copywrite
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                    where did he hurt his shoulder this season? in the pocket
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                         so by your logic , Terrell Davis' career-ending knee injury came in 2001
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                              by my logic i'm not talking about terrell davis
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                   your not talking about the injury that jeopardized Chad's career either
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                                        so to recap, what was chad doing and where was he
Jan 04th 2006
260
The thing about vick this season
Jan 02nd 2006
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      the shot that took him out of the Seattle game...
Jan 02nd 2006
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           he didn't get hit
Jan 02nd 2006
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           Vick was sacked.
Jan 02nd 2006
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                he pulled his hammy after a 40 yard run
Jan 03rd 2006
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                     Did he get sacked or not?
Jan 03rd 2006
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                          so he was injured on a play where he was not touched, thank you.
Jan 03rd 2006
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                               he came back after pulling the hamstring.
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                    because he couldn't move with a pulled hamstring
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                         and because w/ the game on the line and in 2 min offense, knapp
Jan 05th 2006
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           he pulled a hamstring running
Jan 02nd 2006
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lol. let vick have jeff saturday, tariq glenn, wayne, harrison, stokely,
Jan 02nd 2006
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there's no room for logic here
Jan 02nd 2006
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RE: lol. let vick have jeff saturday, tariq glenn, wayne, harrison, stok...
Jan 02nd 2006
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you need your OKP account deleted
Jan 03rd 2006
166
      what you said nm
Jan 03rd 2006
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we gotta start a "Post like O_E" movement
Jan 02nd 2006
99
You were on point until this one:
Jan 02nd 2006
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*Hands O_E a mirror*
Jan 02nd 2006
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      Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Jan 04th 2006
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*LOL*
Jan 02nd 2006
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^^^Winner via Uncle Tom Bonus Points^^^
Jan 02nd 2006
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nah man
Jan 02nd 2006
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And I propose a: "Post like an O_E Hater" Contest"
Jan 02nd 2006
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      who played the grammar card first?
Jan 02nd 2006
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           1 point
Jan 02nd 2006
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                i'm terrible at this game
Jan 02nd 2006
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                     *arbitrarily hands you an L*
Jan 02nd 2006
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                          7 points
Jan 02nd 2006
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                               you can always tell when you've been losing particularly badly
Jan 02nd 2006
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                               I got a better measure for: "You lost"
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                    zeno has a good strategy for dealing with you
Jan 02nd 2006
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                                         I have a better strategy for dealing with you.
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                         The subject line is more than enough space in which to hand you an L
Jan 03rd 2006
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                                         This is why Vince Young will go third in the draft
Jan 04th 2006
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                               RE: 7 points
Jan 02nd 2006
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i saw the commentary that pasquarelli is talkin about in this crap
Jan 02nd 2006
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RE: i saw the commentary that pasquarelli is talkin about in this crap
Jan 03rd 2006
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Heh.
Jan 03rd 2006
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this article is ignorant
Jan 03rd 2006
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Anybody get a good look at Troy Smith yesterday?
Jan 03rd 2006
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Co Sign
Jan 03rd 2006
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i'm not arguing that with you, phill!! (c) joe vs the volcano
Jan 03rd 2006
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or it comes from people who realize that pocket QBs win Super Bowls
Jan 03rd 2006
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      Lol. Wrong.
Jan 03rd 2006
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      ^END OF POST^
Jan 03rd 2006
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      hold up:
Jan 03rd 2006
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           Is this really even an argument anymore?...
Jan 03rd 2006
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           This is cute.
Jan 03rd 2006
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                That was ugly.
Jan 05th 2006
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      a pocket QB has never won a super bowl alone. ever.
Jan 03rd 2006
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      The best you can come up with is "go kill yourself"
Jan 03rd 2006
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           in conjunction with the unequivocal truth above it, I feel it was a powe...
Jan 03rd 2006
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                You mean the truth in Shelly's post above it?
Jan 03rd 2006
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                     Isnt RJCC arguing the same thing UR?
Jan 03rd 2006
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                          No, he's not.
Jan 05th 2006
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      you are arguing for the sake of arguing, now....
Jan 03rd 2006
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           Yessir. n/m
Jan 03rd 2006
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You racist, racist man
Jan 03rd 2006
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what team in the modern era had an offense equipped for a running QB?
Jan 03rd 2006
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everybody in here just needs to shut the fuck up...
Jan 03rd 2006
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you shut the fuck up, if I was wrong, tell me how.
Jan 03rd 2006
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Has anyone yet touched on...
Jan 03rd 2006
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Co-sign...
Jan 03rd 2006
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just write the Vick isnt as good as everyone thought article
Jan 03rd 2006
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at least that would be honest
Jan 03rd 2006
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      that's what he wants to say and people thought
Jan 03rd 2006
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           you think EVERYONE thought michael vick would be the best
Jan 03rd 2006
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                RE: you think EVERYONE thought michael vick would be the best
Jan 03rd 2006
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                people also thought the world was flat. as such, any statement beginning
Jan 03rd 2006
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                     funny that #220 understood it
Jan 03rd 2006
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                          I didn't address your 4 or 5 year statement b/c I believe it goes withou...
Jan 03rd 2006
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                               I feel really sorry for a multimillionaire
Jan 04th 2006
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                I think he means Vick was given a lil LeBronish type hype
Jan 03rd 2006
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                     I thought you were through with this conversation
Jan 03rd 2006
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                          Here comes 5-0 lol
Jan 04th 2006
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                               stop snitching stop lying
Jan 04th 2006
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                                    All I did was help a cat understand what someone was saying
Jan 04th 2006
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200 posts=slow burn
Jan 03rd 2006
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thank you for ignoring any responses that don't reference a race war
Jan 03rd 2006
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a quick scan says
Jan 03rd 2006
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O_E isn't my crony. He's my alias.
Jan 03rd 2006
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Hey, I barely posted in this!
Jan 03rd 2006
241
Lol.
Jan 03rd 2006
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I wonder if OE, rjcc, Expertise and Bison Class were here
Jan 03rd 2006
240
It's Hard To be A Pocket Passer
Jan 03rd 2006
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Yeah, he seemed to use "athletic quarterback" as a euphemism
Jan 04th 2006
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Gee, thanks guys
Jan 03rd 2006
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simple question
Jan 04th 2006
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RE: simple question
Jan 04th 2006
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Me Personally
Jan 04th 2006
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RE: simple question
Jan 04th 2006
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      get the fuck out of here
Jan 04th 2006
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           They gave him Jurevicius and Hackett
Jan 04th 2006
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                you hating on Goose
Jan 04th 2006
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                Jackson's a great #2 receiver
Jan 04th 2006
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                It is so easy to over look the O-line because the lines are the most
Jan 05th 2006
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Here's my reply to Pasquerelli...
Jan 05th 2006
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Vince Young says hello (Godfather Part 2 style)
Jan 05th 2006
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 15th 2006
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so big ben is a scrambler now?
Jan 15th 2006
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No, but rather Peyton's pocket passing ability
Jan 15th 2006
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LOL!
Jan 15th 2006
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