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"The Official 2019 NBA Prospect Thread 4 Thruthiness and Justivity"


  

          

Less than a month until the draft. You know the drill.

I'll list the prospects, you list your thoughts, as detailed or as basic ("he'll be good"/"he'll be sorry") as you want. As meticulously bias-free as possible or as blindly agenda-driven as you want.

Get on record before these guys play a single NBA game as to how you think they'll pan out. Stake claims, "buy stock," etc.

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The Official 2019 NBA Prospect Thread 4 Thruthiness and Justivity [View all] , Frank Longo, Thu May-30-19 12:54 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Zion Williamson
May 30th 2019
1
Beast...from day 1
May 30th 2019
54
We know he’s a beast offensively but can he defend at the NBA level?
May 30th 2019
71
Absolutely. Lateral quickness, timing, explosive leaper..
May 30th 2019
74
RE: Absolutely. Lateral quickness, timing, explosive leaper..
May 30th 2019
75
      He’ll be a fine defender in any league with his physical gifts.
May 30th 2019
77
lol stop it.
May 31st 2019
90
      RE: lol stop it.
May 31st 2019
92
RE: Zion Williamson
May 31st 2019
78
HoF
May 31st 2019
84
GOAT
Jun 03rd 2019
109
No additional hype necessary. He's a star.
Jun 04th 2019
113
RE: Zion Williamson
Jun 05th 2019
119
HOF'er, likely ROY but not a lock (Morant). Needs some adjustments
Jun 06th 2019
130
HOF
Jun 20th 2019
194
Ja Morant
May 30th 2019
2
Talented but...
May 30th 2019
56
Impact player from Day 1
May 30th 2019
76
All-Star, the kid can play
May 30th 2019
72
RE: Ja Morant
May 31st 2019
81
With the news about the
Jun 01st 2019
103
Elite, multi-ASG type prospect with some mid-major caveats.
Jun 03rd 2019
105
whoa i read zero replies and we had essentially the same take
Jun 06th 2019
132
Pretty high floor, just above-average ceiling maybe
Jun 06th 2019
131
a cyse and less than a handful of AS games
Jun 20th 2019
195
RJ Barrett
May 30th 2019
3
Mamba Mentality, for better and/or for worse.
May 30th 2019
51
Ricky Davis seems fair. He's less erratic and smarter though
May 30th 2019
63
      For sure. Ellis is also a decent comparison in terms of game.
Jun 03rd 2019
108
Barring injury, should average at least 18 ppg for at least 8 years
May 30th 2019
66
Rudy Gay, solid player, long career, but not a star
May 30th 2019
73
RE: Rudy Gay, solid player, long career, but not a star
May 31st 2019
79
One and done bust factory
May 31st 2019
85
Fuck the Dookie nervousness, he is gonna be good
Jun 06th 2019
133
HOF
Jun 20th 2019
196
could be a great complementary player but ball-stops too much
Jun 21st 2019
222
Jarrett Culver
May 30th 2019
4
Solid NBA wing player
May 31st 2019
89
Star potential. I'm a big fan.
Jun 04th 2019
117
His frame is nice and projectable. No concerns there for me.
Jun 06th 2019
136
Could go either way on him, really
Jun 06th 2019
135
a cog.
Jun 20th 2019
197
Darius Garland
May 30th 2019
5
No clue. Didn’t see any of his games before injury.
May 30th 2019
46
Impossible to say IMHO
Jun 06th 2019
137
I think Diet Coke Kyrie is a fair assessment.
Jun 06th 2019
142
      more or less what i thought, doesn't sound great to me.
Jun 06th 2019
149
best PG
Jun 20th 2019
198
DeAndre Hunter
May 30th 2019
6
RE: DeAndre Hunter
May 31st 2019
83
I keep coming back to a Bruce Bowen comparison, tbh.
Jun 03rd 2019
107
Good player for a good team, not a guy I'd invest a high pick in though
Jun 06th 2019
140
generic OVR 79 2k guy
Jun 20th 2019
199
Cam Reddish
May 30th 2019
7
ZZzzZZzZz....
May 30th 2019
49
K (and his team mates) held him back
May 30th 2019
57
      I agree, they Kevin Loved him at Duke
May 30th 2019
67
Ehhhhh
May 30th 2019
68
RE: Cam Reddish
May 31st 2019
80
Better pro than Barrett
May 31st 2019
86
Such a high ceiling, such a low floor. A bad team *has* to take him.
Jun 03rd 2019
110
Clarification re: his motor:
Jun 04th 2019
112
RE: Cam Reddish
Jun 05th 2019
120
Not in love with him. Too much bust potential for me.
Jun 06th 2019
134
HOF
Jun 20th 2019
200
how was he not eating as Duke's third option?
Jun 21st 2019
223
Coby White
May 30th 2019
8
Better version of Ty Lawson
May 30th 2019
53
Best case scenario: Jamal Crawford.
Jun 04th 2019
114
I like him on the Wiz as a backup for Brad.
Jun 12th 2019
180
Like his length and ability to change gears. That's about it
Jun 06th 2019
145
sorry
Jun 20th 2019
201
I like him. nice combo guard who can get to the rack.
Jun 21st 2019
225
      While this is true, it's largely in transition.
Jun 22nd 2019
231
           I definitely think he will
Jun 22nd 2019
232
Rui Hachimura
May 30th 2019
9
RE: Rui Hachimura
May 31st 2019
87
LOVE his potential, this is a guy who's still adapting to the game
Jun 06th 2019
138
I've said all year he's a Top 5-6 guy, but I have a few concerns.
Jun 06th 2019
147
Is he Giannis lite or a dinky copy?
Jun 06th 2019
153
aight...gonna be a spur or celtic no matter what
Jun 20th 2019
202
Bol Bol
May 30th 2019
10
If he juices like Giannis, can be an amazing talent
May 30th 2019
59
... yeah, I'd be too scared to draft him.
Jun 04th 2019
111
Super high ceiling, pretty low floor. My emotional favorite in this draf...
Jun 06th 2019
139
no idea...pass. dunno if he likes playing. might get a check and chill
Jun 20th 2019
203
Brandon Clarke
May 30th 2019
11
Jordan Bell 2.0. I'm high on him.
Jun 06th 2019
123
I like his game, especially in this environment
Jun 06th 2019
141
a cyse...he's a second round talent. just plays smart
Jun 20th 2019
204
Jaxson Hayes
May 30th 2019
12
I'll take some of his stock. Intriguing. I love late bloomers. Top 10-12
Jun 06th 2019
157
Coke Zero Clint Capela with potential to be Diet Coke Clint Capela.
Jun 10th 2019
161
bamma...solid starter
Jun 20th 2019
205
Keldon Johnson
May 30th 2019
13
Lil Truth, chance to be the best player in the draft.
May 30th 2019
55
There is literally zero chance he is the best player in the draft.
Jun 07th 2019
160
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 2.0. I like him.
Jun 10th 2019
162
he sorry
Jun 20th 2019
206
Sekou Doumbouya
May 30th 2019
14
Comparisons of him being Siakam are lazy.
Jun 12th 2019
181
tell me more.
Jun 22nd 2019
230
solid rotation guy
Jun 20th 2019
207
Romeo Langford
May 30th 2019
15
Somebody sell me on this kid. I don’t see it
May 31st 2019
88
Same
May 31st 2019
95
Ceiling: a Coke Zero DeMar DeRozan.
Jun 04th 2019
116
he's a 3-and-D guy with no 3 and no D. pass.
Jun 06th 2019
152
didn't know about the thumb injury he played through
Jun 21st 2019
226
Kevin Porter Jr.
May 30th 2019
16
Dion Waiters with a worse attitude. Let someone else take him.
Jun 06th 2019
127
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
May 30th 2019
17
Diet Coke Malcolm Brogdon. Could help any team.
Jun 10th 2019
171
Nassir Little
May 30th 2019
18
Smells like Tyrus Thomas
May 30th 2019
58
Good upside but insanely low floor. *So* much work to do.
Jun 06th 2019
124
I would take a flyer on him but you've got to be patient
Jun 06th 2019
154
sorry
Jun 20th 2019
208
Talen Horton-Tucker
May 30th 2019
19
Big bodied youngin with a full bag and crazy wing span
Jun 04th 2019
118
Stud off the bench at a minimum
Jun 06th 2019
155
Crazy young, crazy potential, but easy to see a bust here.
Jun 10th 2019
164
PJ Washington
May 30th 2019
20
Best big in the draft. A combo of Elton Brand & David West.
May 30th 2019
62
wut
May 30th 2019
70
No stutters
May 31st 2019
96
      you realize he's at least 2 inches shorter than either of those guys...
May 31st 2019
97
           About an inch with shoes. All have long wingspans.
May 31st 2019
98
                his wingspan shortest and so is he...
May 31st 2019
99
                     If there is a vast difference? Sure.
May 31st 2019
100
                          I don't see that either...
May 31st 2019
101
                               Well okay.
May 31st 2019
102
Do you realize how big of praise that is? Jesus Christ.
Jun 06th 2019
126
      Yep. That's why I think that's a best case scenario ceiling.
Jun 06th 2019
128
High-character, jack-of-all-trades guy. Diet Coke David West.
Jun 06th 2019
121
LMAO hard to follow this act
Jun 06th 2019
144
sorry
Jun 20th 2019
209
The more I look at him, the more I see tweener issues
Jun 20th 2019
215
Better than I thought
Dec 03rd 2019
236
Grant Williams
May 30th 2019
21
Diet Coke Draymond Green. Going to be a steal imo.
Jun 10th 2019
165
smart, skilled, VERY strong but doesn't have NBA build
Jun 19th 2019
183
the anti-NBA body
Jun 21st 2019
224
KZ Okpala
May 30th 2019
22
Draft him on versatility potential and pray.
Jun 10th 2019
175
Cam Johnson
May 30th 2019
23
3-and-D wing. Nothing else, but that's all he needs to be.
Jun 06th 2019
122
Danny Green V 2.0. SO many teams should look at him
Jun 06th 2019
158
my sleeper.
Jun 20th 2019
210
Tyler Herro
May 30th 2019
24
Talented scorer. Not just a shooter.
May 30th 2019
65
Ceiling: Diet Coke/Coke Zero Devin Booker. Starter.
Jun 10th 2019
169
I kinda like him, could be better in the pros than in college
Jun 19th 2019
184
Chuma Okeke
May 30th 2019
25
One of the higher-IQ defenders/hustle guys in the draft.
Jun 10th 2019
170
maybe a bit of a reach where he went but i like him
Jun 21st 2019
221
Jontay Porter
May 30th 2019
26
Injured...perpetually
May 30th 2019
60
Take him early second and pray.
Jun 20th 2019
193
Matisse Thybulle
May 30th 2019
27
Potential defensive beast, but *so* many questions.
Jun 10th 2019
173
      by the numbers he's a wild defensive prospect but like you said ...
Jun 21st 2019
218
Bruno Fernando
May 30th 2019
28
No nonsense walking double double.
May 30th 2019
50
Coke Zero Enes Kanter. Second round flier guy.
Jun 10th 2019
172
Carsen Edwards
May 30th 2019
29
Shot taking, shot making dawg.. will take somebody’s minutes from jump...
May 30th 2019
47
Will absolutely stick and have a long career
May 31st 2019
93
In a word, ONIONS! Philly buzz picking up. I am cool with that.
Jun 06th 2019
159
Off-the-bench undersized shooter. A better, stronger Quinn Cook.
Jun 10th 2019
166
Daniel Gafford
May 30th 2019
30
Jalen McDaniels
May 30th 2019
31
In some ways ideal for modern NBA, but high bust potential w/ that body
Jun 20th 2019
214
Ty Jerome
May 30th 2019
32
Love him. Will be solid starter on an avg team for a few years
May 31st 2019
94
Greivis Vasquez 2.0. Don't let him fall out of the first round, imo.
Jun 10th 2019
167
Not a fan. Good college player, don't see it translating to the pros
Jun 19th 2019
185
nah. not a NBA athlete and can't see him guarding anybody
Jun 21st 2019
227
Luguentz Dort
May 30th 2019
33
3-and-D potential, but I'm a skeptic.
Jun 20th 2019
187
Darius Bazley
May 30th 2019
34
Got a Mil for an intership...already won
May 30th 2019
61
No clue, but I'd be scared.
Jun 20th 2019
192
I'm intrigued though not excited
Jun 20th 2019
212
Mfiondu Kabengele
May 30th 2019
35
RE: Mfiondu Kabengele
May 31st 2019
82
Some concerns, but he's got obvious NBA skills.
Jun 10th 2019
168
Shamorie Ponds
May 30th 2019
36
Bench scorer type. Guaranteed to go off a couple times a year.
Jun 20th 2019
188
Strong player to run a second unit
Jun 20th 2019
217
Naz Reid
May 30th 2019
37
Probably too slow to be effective, but I like his style.
Jun 10th 2019
176
Louis King
May 30th 2019
38
I liked his game at Oregon
May 30th 2019
64
Tools are there, but def scared of consistency/work ethic.
Jun 20th 2019
189
Tremont Waters
May 30th 2019
39
Love his game. Crafty ball handler, solid shooter and a thief on defens...
May 30th 2019
48
More than likely Europe bound.
Jun 06th 2019
125
saw him play a couple times in person. really sound player but ...
Jun 06th 2019
151
Miye Oni
May 30th 2019
40
Definite role player potential in the second.
Jun 10th 2019
174
Jordan Bone
May 30th 2019
41
great speed. not a real shooter but improved to good enough.
Jun 21st 2019
228
this is beautiful-
Jun 22nd 2019
229
Charles Matthews
May 30th 2019
42
Jordan Poole
May 30th 2019
43
Fort Wayne Mad Ants
Jun 20th 2019
186
doesn't thrill me but he got himself into a nice situation.
Jun 21st 2019
219
Ignas Brazdeikis
May 30th 2019
44
TACKO FALL
May 30th 2019
45
Low minutes/high FPPM staple in Survivor
May 30th 2019
52
Boban?
May 30th 2019
69
      Yup...might be more consistent with PT though
May 31st 2019
91
           I think Boban is better than Tacko.
Jun 04th 2019
115
                Boban is a better all-around player but still has cement feet
Jun 06th 2019
148
Upper-middle-class man's Shawn Bradley
Jun 06th 2019
143
      I just don't know why, in analytics-laden 2019...
Jun 06th 2019
146
           that's another thing that limits his usefulness
Jun 06th 2019
150
Healthy Michael Porter better than any of these guys btw
Jun 02nd 2019
104
Unicorns better than horses, btw
Jun 03rd 2019
106
prolly never happen but I am pulling for him
Jun 06th 2019
156
Not much too add to this post
Jun 06th 2019
129
this is an awfully weak class.
Jun 10th 2019
163
Eric Paschall
Jun 10th 2019
177
Woefully slept on. Can absolutely start in today's NBA.
Jun 10th 2019
178
Will be good
Jun 11th 2019
179
He's gonna be a solid pro. Ceiling B Grade Draymond, Floor BG Tucker
Jun 19th 2019
182
GOGA!
Jun 20th 2019
190
I like what I've read. Real big man potential here.
Jun 20th 2019
191
      Lower-body strength, lateral mobility, no second jump ... red flags
Jun 20th 2019
211
           Admittedly, I haven't seen him, so I claim no stock.
Jun 20th 2019
213
                he only played part of one euro league season
Jun 20th 2019
216
Was there no Luka Samanic entry here?
Jun 21st 2019
220
About 20 games in. Where we at with this?
Dec 03rd 2019
233
I'm at "it's 20 games in."
Dec 03rd 2019
234
      First quarter of the season is done. Never too soon to see some things.
Dec 03rd 2019
235
      Thybulle for the Sixers is showing some good form
Dec 03rd 2019
237
           Yes I’m pleased
Dec 03rd 2019
238
                if someone can ever get him to believe in his offense, he'd be deadly.
Dec 03rd 2019
239

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