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"The Official 2016 NBA Prospect Thread 4 Thruthiness and Justivity"


  

          

This weekend not only marks the deadline passing for players to decide to stay in the draft or return to school, but also marks the fifth anniversary of Basa making the first Thruthiness and Justivity thread.

As he said five years ago:

"i'm listing all the prospects in this thread...and all you gotta do is reply with your opinion on them. that's all i'm asking. it can be detailed or you can simply say "he gonna be good" or "he gonna be sorry." bottomline is NOBODY is gonna get to pretend they thought someone was good or sorry anymore and have the thread fall outta evidence/existence. nah, dogg. we going on record for real. because bammas on this board STAY LYING!

and if you don't contribute and try to cuban B this thread...GOOD...i don't have to respect or acknowledge your opinion about ANY player from this draft."

So you know the drill. I'll list the prospects, you list your thoughts, as detailed or as basic as you want. As meticulously bias-free as possible or as blindly agenda-driven as you want.

Get on record before these guys play a single NBA game as to how you think they'll pan out. Stake claims, "buy stock," etc.

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The Official 2016 NBA Prospect Thread 4 Thruthiness and Justivity [View all] , Frank Longo, Thu May-26-16 02:01 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Ben Simmons
May 26th 2016
1
all-star by year 3...never a #1 option...slightly better odom
May 26th 2016
9
^^^I'm here with it...said it that rankings post
May 27th 2016
84
agreed
Jun 01st 2016
153
Yeah, I can't come up with a better subject line than this.
Jun 21st 2016
164
Perennial all star
May 26th 2016
37
he gonna be better than good
May 26th 2016
38
Floor: sticking with athletic young Diaw
May 26th 2016
43
Diaw has a mean post game, haven't seen anything from Simmons
Jun 22nd 2016
189
      That post up game didn't come until he got fat though.
Jun 22nd 2016
192
           He was in the best shape of his life in '05-'06
Jun 22nd 2016
196
Upside: Better Odom. Downside: Tyreke Evans-ish
May 26th 2016
55
Absolute worst case scenario, he's Rudy Gay
May 26th 2016
59
Rudy can actually shoot, he just takes bad shots
Jun 22nd 2016
190
Cocaine-free Lamar Odom
May 27th 2016
98
If he gets that jumper he's a top 15 player
May 27th 2016
102
depends on his attitude. Seems like a spoiled brat.
May 27th 2016
104
What gets me is THIS... yet on the other hand, he's an unselfish player
May 28th 2016
133
Fuck it, I'll go all in...
May 31st 2016
142
Cyses aside, the obvious number 1 pick
May 31st 2016
152
Esp considering your lack of a primary ball-handler and play-maker
Jun 01st 2016
158
Yeah...
Jun 01st 2016
159
Y'all better hope he doesn't end up being a bigger/stronger Duck Sauce
Jun 22nd 2016
193
he's an obvious all-star level starter. that's it.
Jun 23rd 2016
230
All-Star within 2 years.. will be 16/8/5/1/1 as a rookie
Jun 02nd 2016
160
Most tools of any player in the draft. Star but not a superstar.
Jun 22nd 2016
204
Brandon Ingram
May 26th 2016
2
slightly below KD...All-defense player...future MVP winner.
May 26th 2016
12
greatness in the making
May 26th 2016
39
Not a star. But better than say a Morris Twin.
May 26th 2016
46
Everything I thought Stro Swift would've become, just smaller
May 26th 2016
60
Upside: Paul George. Downside: Gallinari
May 26th 2016
63
^^^I'm in this arena
May 27th 2016
83
Not a good comp IMO, PG's shooting had to catch up with his defense
May 30th 2016
136
      I think he meant what Ingram can become, not what he is now.
May 30th 2016
137
           Yeah i still don't view PG as a pure shooter...
May 31st 2016
151
a little better than peak Rashard Lewis
May 26th 2016
74
I'd take him in a heartbeat
May 27th 2016
103
He's like a less athletic Giannis w/ a jump shot
Jun 22nd 2016
195
Like his potential more than Ben Simmons.
May 27th 2016
129
RE: Brandon Ingram
May 31st 2016
143
Rashard Lewis
Jun 07th 2016
161
Didn't want to comment w/o having enough of a sample
Jun 20th 2016
163
Cosign all of this. Highest basement of any player in the draft.
Jun 21st 2016
165
      The fit is what really excites me
Jun 22nd 2016
199
I buy the Rashard Lewis comparisons, but has more heart.
Jun 22nd 2016
205
he weighs 190 pounds
Jun 23rd 2016
221
      Does that mean you think he'll bust?
Jun 23rd 2016
229
Jamal Murray
May 26th 2016
3
he ain't nothing but a less dumb rodney stuckey
May 26th 2016
28
Best player in the draft. Brandon Knight with better handle...
May 26th 2016
44
If he's the best player it's a really bad draft
May 27th 2016
105
Being that Knight with a better handle, more range, more..
May 27th 2016
110
      He's gonna be 3rd best on an Eastern Conference 6th seed
May 27th 2016
111
           Not sure how you came up with that logic BUT
May 27th 2016
112
                Suns are shit with him as the number 2
May 27th 2016
113
                     Suns are shit cuz him and Bledsoe get hurt.
May 27th 2016
118
Agenda Closed. Thanks!
Dec 30th 2018
270
Sky high potential, I'm assuming he'll be a 2 in the NBA
May 26th 2016
57
Upside: Brandon Roy Dowside: OJ Mayo
May 26th 2016
72
^^^I can see this too
May 27th 2016
85
Sounds about right, I think he is closer to Mayo though
Jun 22nd 2016
206
borderline All Star
May 26th 2016
73
Love him. Make him a 2 guard.
Jun 21st 2016
167
      I also think he is a two, why waste his scoring/make him manage games?
Jun 23rd 2016
235
Kris Dunn
May 26th 2016
4
what crittendon shoulda been...star. top 3 PG by year 5.
May 26th 2016
34
Word?
Dec 30th 2018
272
he's legit.....All Star
May 26th 2016
50
Solid player, starter on a bad team/backup on a good one
May 26th 2016
61
Upside: Terrell Brandon Downside: current Shaun Livingston
May 26th 2016
65
You killin' it SH...I'm going with Brandon (hopefully injury free)
May 27th 2016
86
He's already 3X as explosive as Terrell Brandon ever was.
May 27th 2016
99
A slightly smaller D-Wade. Futuristic point god.
May 27th 2016
97
Watered-down Russell Westbrook.
May 27th 2016
101
Weird how everyone is dinging Dunn on the 2 most teachable traits
May 31st 2016
149
      To answer your question, if you're interested:
Jun 21st 2016
168
      sounds like a smaller Marcus Smart, he still can't shoot.
Jun 22nd 2016
183
Homeslice. Bigger D-Lill
May 27th 2016
106
Gonna cost someone their job
May 27th 2016
107
This is definitely the worst case scenario.
May 27th 2016
116
      As someone whose teams stock and trade is PG's with high and low ceiling...
May 27th 2016
117
           Thibs can handle that
May 30th 2016
138
not as impressed w him as others...
May 31st 2016
148
Not sure if I love him but I like him. Built for the NBA, seems pretty t...
Jun 22nd 2016
207
Some of y'all gonna eat some ass. Dude about to be elite.
Dec 26th 2017
Some of y'all gonna eat some ass. Dude about to be elite.
Dec 26th 2017
267
      lolz
Dec 26th 2017
268
           David Aldridge speaking the Dunn language
Dec 26th 2017
269
Buddy Hield
May 26th 2016
5
he ain't nothing but jeff malone with younger cells.
May 26th 2016
32
he gonna be decent
May 26th 2016
40
Floor: JJ Redick. Ceiling: CJ McCollum.
May 26th 2016
45
CJ has excellent handles & a herky-jerky game, Ceiling: Ben Gordon
Jun 22nd 2016
198
Generic 2 Guard. Probably has an Eric Gordon post injury career
May 26th 2016
47
I could see this, might be in the Gordon ball park
May 27th 2016
87
      Gordon was unstoppable driving to the rack when he was healthy
Jun 22nd 2016
197
           I remember Guinness tryna roast me for a Gordon/Harden comparison
Jun 23rd 2016
237
Somewhere between a Terrence Ross and a broke man's Klay
May 26th 2016
54
Downside: Leandro Barbosa
May 26th 2016
58
Brad Beal 2.0
May 27th 2016
127
Decent product of the Steph Curry Halo effect
May 30th 2016
139
Solid bet for a team that wants to know what it's getting
Jun 22nd 2016
208
Jaylen Brown
May 26th 2016
6
dumber than stanley....you figure it out.
May 26th 2016
35
Not a basketball player...
May 26th 2016
51
RE: Not a basketball player...
May 31st 2016
144
Latest member of the Should've Went to UK Club
May 26th 2016
52
Not even that high on him, but I'M BUYING IN
May 26th 2016
64
Them's fightin' words!
May 26th 2016
82
Upside: Jason Richardson Downside: Ben McLemore
May 26th 2016
67
Can't call it
May 27th 2016
88
There's nothing that I like very much.
May 27th 2016
100
He's a kind of guy who I wonder if there was no HS hype...
May 27th 2016
115
      This is what I thought about Shabazz Muhammad when he was coming out
May 27th 2016
123
           Shabazz was the opposite of Brown, tho.
May 27th 2016
126
no agent, deemed "too smart", Isiah is his advisor, chose Cal ...
May 30th 2016
134
Really hard to say. His body is perfect. His game... isn't.
May 30th 2016
135
Has the tools bot no toolbox. McLemore comparison seems about right
Jun 22nd 2016
209
Dragan Bender
May 26th 2016
7
dunno and don't care...unless i need to
May 26th 2016
33
Subpar Zingis imitation
May 26th 2016
66
Upside: Detlef Schrempf Downside: Yi Jianlian
May 26th 2016
68
I think Boston is the best situation for him of anyone in the top 5
May 26th 2016
76
      I like Phoenix better. Lower expectations to start.
May 26th 2016
78
if he slips to like 10, why not roll the dice?
Jun 22nd 2016
210
Henry Ellenson
May 26th 2016
8
no less than 5th best player in draft. double-double guy.
May 26th 2016
31
Worth a flyer
May 27th 2016
109
Whoever drafts him is getting a steal, imo. Diet Coke Kevin Love.
May 30th 2016
140
RE: Henry Ellenson
May 31st 2016
145
Skal Labissiere
May 26th 2016
10
channing frye without the 3rd act
May 26th 2016
30
Ceiling: borderline All Star Sheed type
May 26th 2016
48
I'm with you, but lower ceiling and higher basement.
Jun 21st 2016
169
Serviceable journeyman
Jun 01st 2016
155
One Haitian under a groove, shootin' 3s just forrrrrr the fuck of it
Jun 23rd 2016
245
Denzel Valentine
May 26th 2016
11
Best case- poor man's Gordon Hayward
May 26th 2016
71
Best case- poor man's Jalen Rose
Jun 22nd 2016
200
super glue guy...what lance stephenson shoulda been. 14,6,5 prime
May 27th 2016
91
He's not as athletic as stephenson
May 27th 2016
96
      I prefer "a better, longer Greivis Vasquez."
Jun 21st 2016
170
      lance earthboud as fuck and not that quick. c'mon.
Jun 23rd 2016
231
           But still quicker than Valentine...so that's telling
Jun 23rd 2016
255
Won't be good
Jun 22nd 2016
187
at best a super-sub, has limitations though
Jun 23rd 2016
252
Potentially a very good sixth man
Jun 22nd 2016
211
Jakob Poeltl
May 26th 2016
13
Luc Longley and Andrew Bogut are the only comparisons I can think of
May 26th 2016
62
Big off the bench. He'll stick, but he's not a star.
May 30th 2016
141
He's okay. Maybe a starter. Will play a long time, barring injury.
Jun 23rd 2016
232
Bammer version of Cody Zeller
Jun 23rd 2016
250
Marquese Chriss
May 26th 2016
14
Ceiling: Ibaka with better handles/offense.
May 26th 2016
56
Didn't see much of the guy... but not sure I liked what I saw.
Jun 20th 2016
162
as a UW alum/fan - my thoughts:
Jun 22nd 2016
180
Bust potential is there but boom potential makes him appealing
Jun 22nd 2016
214
Domantas Sabonis
May 26th 2016
15
Solid backup and rotation player on a good team
May 26th 2016
42
Seems like a nice backup. Maybe a Kris Humphries type.
May 26th 2016
79
Starter. Savvy offensive-minded big.
Jun 21st 2016
171
Very solid pro, you win with players like this guy. I'll take his stock
Jun 22nd 2016
213
system player...get him in the right system and he beasts
Jun 23rd 2016
238
      Exactly, which I why I do NOT want him in Sac
Jun 23rd 2016
247
Wade Baldwin
May 26th 2016
16
George Hill
Jun 01st 2016
157
Needs to go to the right place, or he'll end up stuck as a backup.
Jun 21st 2016
172
I like him. He's a championship guard. Not a star, but solid.
Jun 23rd 2016
240
Demetrius Jackson
May 26th 2016
17
productive backup PG that sticks around
May 26th 2016
77
See Wade Baldwin's subject line.
Jun 21st 2016
173
This is the only player that would make me happy as a Pistons fan
Jun 23rd 2016
218
Very good backup on a very good team. Not a starter.
Jun 23rd 2016
236
Tyler Ulis
May 26th 2016
18
at worst 3rd guard, J.J. Barea type.
May 26th 2016
49
standard cerebral goomba...backup on a good team.
May 27th 2016
93
I think he'll carve out a good career, TJ Ford minus injuries
May 27th 2016
95
Aaron Brooks ish
Jun 01st 2016
156
Brooks was solely a scoring guard, Ulis is a pass first PG
Jun 22nd 2016
201
A natural point. Backup at worst.
Jun 21st 2016
174
He'll do a nice job running someone's second unit
Jun 23rd 2016
254
Taurean Prince
May 26th 2016
19
A valuable role player. Does everything well.
Jun 22nd 2016
175
Crowder 2.0
Jun 22nd 2016
202
Typical bamma. Blah. Who cares.
Jun 23rd 2016
241
Malik Beasley
May 26th 2016
20
A slept-on talent. If he went to a blue blood, he'd be a lotto pick.
Jun 22nd 2016
176
wish the cavs could get him somehow...he gon be nice.
Jun 23rd 2016
242
Cheick Diallo
May 26th 2016
21
Going to get someone fired if he goes lotto
May 26th 2016
70
I really think he could be the draft riser this year.
May 26th 2016
75
High-energy guy who'll play tough defense and clean the glass.
Jun 22nd 2016
178
i want nothing to do with him. good luck to everyone who buys in
Jun 23rd 2016
243
Damian Jones
May 26th 2016
22
All the physical tools... but I can't bet on him.
Jun 22nd 2016
181
i want nothing to do with him.
Jun 23rd 2016
244
Brice Johnson
May 26th 2016
23
Nerls
Jun 01st 2016
154
Bench guy. Should probably stick.
Jun 22nd 2016
177
typical UNC gumby. davis, henson, wright, mcadoo, now him.
Jun 23rd 2016
246
Looks good on paper but doesn't wow me, just a guy. 8th/9th man
Jun 23rd 2016
253
DeAndre Bembry
May 26th 2016
24
Decent bench player. Is a winner, but is not a shooter. Versatile.
Jun 23rd 2016
239
Thon Maker
May 26th 2016
25
after taking an atomic L on perry jones III, i'm calling SCRUB
May 27th 2016
90
This years Christian Wood (hype wise) but the 'good' version
May 27th 2016
92
100% on where he goes.
May 27th 2016
114
Future All-Star. nm
May 27th 2016
121
Seems now he's 21 or 23...
Jun 23rd 2016
251
Diamond Stone
May 26th 2016
26
Best case, another Myles Turner
May 26th 2016
69
he wishes he were even slighly as athletic as myles
May 27th 2016
89
      I really think he should've come back for another year
May 27th 2016
124
Dud
May 27th 2016
108
Inclined to agree.
May 27th 2016
119
      Draymond would lock him up
May 27th 2016
120
I don't believe in him.
May 27th 2016
130
Solid 14 and 8 guy in about two years
Jun 22nd 2016
188
I would be very very impressed.
Jun 22nd 2016
194
Has a stripper's name and his stock is falling for a reason
Jun 23rd 2016
248
Malachi Richardson
May 26th 2016
27
eventual starter and 15-17 ppg or so scorer
May 26th 2016
41
Word?
Dec 30th 2018
271
      Well, uh...umm...he’s only 22 and on Toronto.
Dec 30th 2018
275
Upside: Khris Middleton Downside: Tim Hardaway Jr.
May 26th 2016
53
^^^I can see this...I liked his game in the tourney
May 27th 2016
94
RE: Malachi Richardson
May 31st 2016
146
Needs to be a better shooter to stick.
Jun 22nd 2016
179
Should be noted that he shot 42% from 3 in ACC play
Jun 22nd 2016
184
      Yet shot under 70% from the FT line and 37% from 2 in ACC play.
Jun 22nd 2016
185
           mid range doesn't matter #analyticzzzz #NBAJam #3'sorLayups
Jun 23rd 2016
260
taking an agenda flier on this one. 'cuse is due. he mine!
Jun 23rd 2016
234
      NOPE! I got a long memory
Jun 23rd 2016
261
           cool. i'm out. he gon be sorry.
Jun 26th 2016
265
                Hilarious
Dec 30th 2018
273
                     Lmao, don’t even remember that but well played
Dec 30th 2018
274
                          I didn’t remember either. Just jumped out at me
Dec 30th 2018
276
Timothe Luwawu
May 26th 2016
29
gimme two minutes...*opens new tab to youtube*
Jun 23rd 2016
249
there he goes
May 26th 2016
36
Dejounte Murray
May 26th 2016
80
literallly a Jamal Crawford clone.
May 26th 2016
81
      That is very high praise...
May 27th 2016
128
           it's true though.
May 27th 2016
132
                Jamal was a better shooter in college, too.
Jun 22nd 2016
186
                     yeah. i agree. i didn't get my thoughts out clearly there.
Jun 22nd 2016
191
these comps aren't hilarious enough. paging FILF and that ruth.
May 27th 2016
122
Ruth may be banned still.
May 27th 2016
125
RE: Ruth may be banned still.
May 27th 2016
131
What Truth get banned for?
May 31st 2016
147
does POOPINCHICAGO follow college hoops like that?
May 31st 2016
150
      lol... he's not banned
Jun 21st 2016
166
I can't even fake it I don't know shit about any of these dudes, I proba...
Jun 22nd 2016
182
I went in on Okafor last year & was proven right **sips tea**
Jun 22nd 2016
203
      Glad we can reach blanket conclusions on 19-year-olds!
Jun 22nd 2016
212
      Last I checked the #1 overall pick in 2013 was out of the league at 21
Jun 22nd 2016
215
           So Jah will be out of the league in two years. Noted.
Jun 22nd 2016
216
           17 & 7 at 19 could only be made into "bust" in analytics era.
Jun 23rd 2016
219
                Bargs averaged 21, I guess he wasn' a bust
Jun 23rd 2016
225
                     If he'd done it his rookie year, he wouldn't be.
Jun 23rd 2016
227
                          Bargs was a rookie on a playoff team not the worst team in the league
Jun 23rd 2016
256
                               So you're sticking with "Okafor is a bust." Got it.
Jun 23rd 2016
258
      What were you proven right about?
Jun 23rd 2016
220
           http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=24322...
Jun 23rd 2016
223
                Im not seeing it but whatever.
Jun 23rd 2016
226
                     There is no hiding from it, your ass was in the thread
Jun 23rd 2016
233
This is a depressing draft. Also, no one is checking for Deyonta Davis?
Jun 23rd 2016
217
I meant to post him. I really like the potential.
Jun 23rd 2016
222
      RE: I meant to post him. I really like the potential.
Jun 23rd 2016
224
           Any contender would love to have him, IMO.
Jun 23rd 2016
228
Ante Zizic, a.k.a. ANTE UP, a.k.a. DAT ZIZIC.
Jun 23rd 2016
257
AJ Hammons
Jun 23rd 2016
259
Michael Gbinije
Jun 26th 2016
262
Good player in a tough situation numbers wise
Jun 26th 2016
263
Yup...would love to see him stick with them because I like that team's p...
Jun 26th 2016
264
He'll have to be elite at one thing to stick.
Jun 26th 2016
266

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