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106. "RE: nuke vs Prolif"
In response to In response to 77
Wed Jun-15-05 05:53 PM by hdub

          

this was a tight battle- definitely agree with most of what heads is saying ^^^up there but for me nuke took this one

like everybody's said nuke had the better flow, but for me lif's punchlines just didnt land as hard as they did for others

it started off pretty sick

>i spit for furious thirsts! was that a serious verse?/
>dawg, u fresh outta' school - u need experience first!!/
>gimme' tha' mic back!! i'mma' slay u on ya' sig/
>cause' i ain't mike jack., so i'ont play wit' no kids!/

but in the second bunch it seemed forced- what you mean "slay you on ya sig" that one just didnt register for me

this right here was sick:

>u a bygone! - so much for showing up and advancing!/
>this dude's a fluke! i'm 'bout to trash ya' luck sessions/
>how u a nuke? can't find ya mass destruct weapons!/

but this is where it got weak for me- seems like lif is just throwing up generic insults and not paying attention

>aiyo, i'm 'bout to end tha' lie that stay up in ya' mouf'/
>how u claimming N-Y, but u stay up in tha' house!?/
>aint never seen a gun! that's fiction brutality!/
>so u a grad AND a thug?! c'mon, lets stick to reality!/

nuke never put up fake gangsta rhymes-- in fact he's always talking about how whack that shit is-- in this very battle he said:

>Fighting the dawn with my pen, suckas and bustas pretend/
>My friends unlikely to bend under the pressure they fend/
>Stressing the lessons of life undressing grin the lexuses spin
>gold chains faker than tin/

now maybe other folks dont know nuke like i do so this didnt stick out as much for them but to me it seems like this line is just a generic punch- i cant even begin to count how many rhymes i've seen on here where somebody criticizes someone for being a fake thug-- now granted for a lot of folks on here the jab mos def applies- but in this case it comes across tired

it also seems silly to throw out "college grad" as an insult- doesnt he get props for that??

in this next part the flow/rhyme scheme gets weak, versatile doesnt seem to fit in with searchable, virtual, and personal

>o, u aint think i'd find out? son, that b.s. is searchable/
>only battle u ever won was on a PS2 virtual!!/
>understand i'm iller - and my spits a lil' versatile/
>calling u out Stan Miller! - yeah i get a lil' personal!!/

this first punchline in this is funny but in the last two bars nuke's name is posted as if it's a diss

you calling him HIS name not A name- and it's not like it's hard to discover- shit's right there in his profile- shit comes across as filler

this next punch seems like another generic joke:

>click ya' cursor wit' aggression, cause u asking for Lif'/
>and don't make me post that message where u was' asking for
>tips!!/

i mean seriously- how many times have we all heard that same inbox joke on here??

even tho the middle of lif's rhyme came across weak to me the end was strong- the atom line was pretty good and the rwanda shit was sick

as far as nuke's goes to me he had two major weaknesses- first off the spelling errors- i know heads think its ridiculous that i bring spelling up- it's not hard to use a spellcheck- it just takes a second and it leaves the rhyme more polished

sometimes deciphering more serious errors takes the reader a second and they lose the intended flow

secondly- this verse is obviously more about flow than punchlines as everybody said- if this was an audio battle that would be sick but nuke needs to be making us laugh more for these written clashes-- still the flow was ill it's just a matter of trying to incorporate both that sick flow and the wittiness

still there were some hot lines in here too
i like the start:

>Microphone cypher ripper spitting the ridiculous rhythms/
>Beyond the O.K. im a player of prolific divisions/
>Spit lyricisms that critically condition your wisdom/
>Spitting so many bars im building you a lyrical prison/
>When compositions sex your writtens your feeling my friction/
>tearing up pussy lines with dick rhymes for lyrical kittens/

one gripe i have is that you say "lyrical" far too many times

for me the next bit was mostly filler but it did flow real well- and then these lines:

>Emancipation proclamation begin with a win and end statments
>of standing ovation/
>Leave the track Bassing/...
>Prolif will fall in amazement, holding aces thats spaded
>bringing the pain to the jaded/.
>Need not provoke ya/...
>But if rap was poker I'd smoke her with aces and jokers/
>Control culture as if my name was Sosa/.
>Fighting the dawn with my pen, suckas and bustas pretend/
>My friends unlikely to bend under the pressure they fend/
>Stressing the lessons of life undressing grin the lexuses spin
>gold chains faker than tin/


this shit was sick- using metaphor and also making points-- plus in the context of lif's verse the end of this section was just killer

then after the killer some more flowing filler- on audio i think a lot of this would sound great and hit hard but im looking for lines like these:

>Ill like soar throats broken tight language from quotes/
>Confuse her like a crack head to soap/
>Public Speakers on Coke/..
>A Reefa head with out his smokes/
>Prolif will never be hard she's only clever to odds and the
>odds are gonna be against her when her mic is on/
>Brittle bones in my palm, beats take the form of bombs, crush
>the mic, then evaporate her automatic arms/
>Her weapons are gone her fear turns on she sobbs, the
>beginning is the end but the beggining was gone/
>Im King of The Ring your a queen I'll send you a ticket/
>Put on the stroll of Hunts Point and rename you Pro-Lick-it.
>

ending real strong with these- the confusion part was my favorite in this section

so- nuke gets this one cause of better flow and cause the punchlines he did have were stronger- there was a lot of filler here and it definitely detracted from the strength of this verse tho this could have been a much stronger verse for nuke if it was shorter just including those sections i've highlighted

prolif came nice but needs to work more on getting sick patterns into the flow-- the punchlines in this one also seemed uninspired- in other shit ive seen from lif there were more unique punchlines like that rwanda shit<----by far the best line of this match

more of that and less of the same old "you's a wanksta" type shit and lif would have had me breaking ranks

feel free not to count this since me and nuke are admittedly peoples- but i couldnt resist throwing my 2 cents in

...(the end)...

  

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King O' Da Ring Tourney III (Round 2) [View all] , KnowOne, Wed Jun-15-05 10:21 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Ish' talk / questions / suggestions/ and other random ish'.
Jun 13th 2005
1
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 13th 2005
2
cossizzle brizzles
Jun 13th 2005
3
check ya inbox
Jun 13th 2005
7
"Just as in round one match-ups were randomly chosen"
Jun 13th 2005
4
      naw it was random cuz I actually.....
Jun 13th 2005
5
           RE: naw it was random cuz I actually.....
Jun 13th 2005
8
Dub my verse is in
Jun 13th 2005
6
RE: Dub my verse is in
Jun 14th 2005
18
      RE: Dub my verse is in
Jun 14th 2005
27
           u mad?
Jun 14th 2005
37
verse is in and i know ima win
Jun 14th 2005
9
Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 14th 2005
10
Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 14th 2005
11
RE: Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 14th 2005
12
**abstain...
Jun 14th 2005
15
you dont read very well H Dub
Jun 14th 2005
41
      have i gone anywhere???
Jun 14th 2005
43
           wait my turn
Jun 14th 2005
45
                ^^^if this right here....
Jun 14th 2005
47
RE: Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 14th 2005
16
RE: Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 14th 2005
28
RE: Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 14th 2005
30
      just cause they boys...
Jun 14th 2005
38
im undecided but by the time i break shit down i'll know
Jun 14th 2005
32
RE: Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 14th 2005
34
RE: Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 14th 2005
40
fuck it im voting....
Jun 14th 2005
44
AYO KNOW ONE
Jun 14th 2005
46
      RE: AYO KNOW ONE
Jun 14th 2005
48
      RE: ax, come on now...
Jun 14th 2005
49
      Dead wrong homie...
Jun 14th 2005
51
      fuck it...ima be around to be around
Jun 15th 2005
64
           drama queen ^^^
Jun 15th 2005
65
i've stayed away from this tournament
Jun 14th 2005
52
Analytical Skills ...
Jun 15th 2005
104
Respect..
Jun 15th 2005
124
Ax by a hair
Jun 14th 2005
55
RE: Ax by a hair
Jun 14th 2005
56
uuhhh..errr...That was meant to be "blows"..LOL
Jun 14th 2005
57
blow = dope = herione
Jun 14th 2005
58
      heroin isnt blow coke is...
Jun 14th 2005
59
      oops
Jun 14th 2005
61
           RE: oops
Jun 14th 2005
62
           Lmao
Jun 15th 2005
63
      RE: blow = dope = herione
Jun 14th 2005
60
      cocaine... as in the movie Blow starring Johnny Depp
Jun 15th 2005
71
           Thanks yo..
Jun 15th 2005
74
Ax
Jun 15th 2005
66
dat nigga frak all day....
Jun 16th 2005
130
RE: Whateva vs Instant Axis
Jun 18th 2005
136
MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
13
MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
14
RE: MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
17
RE: MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
19
exhibit A
Jun 14th 2005
20
      Yooooooooooooooo
Jun 14th 2005
22
           RE: Yooooooooooooooo
Jun 14th 2005
23
RE: MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
21
RE: MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
24
      RE: MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
25
           The reasons I allowed it....
Jun 14th 2005
31
                RE: The reasons I allowed it....
Jun 14th 2005
36
i dont think he deserves a dq
Jun 14th 2005
26
MCee vs Def 1: Tie
Jun 14th 2005
29
i'ma take mcee
Jun 14th 2005
33
RE: MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
35
RE: MCee VS Def 1
Jun 14th 2005
39
Vote: MCee
Jun 15th 2005
80
Def1 n/m
Jun 14th 2005
42
RE: MCee wit the BarTek killer verse, ha ha haaaa!
Jun 14th 2005
50
lyric-wise: Def1. punch-wise: MCee
Jun 14th 2005
53
neither should advance, def 1 by default
Jun 14th 2005
54
*Hmmmmmmm*
Jun 15th 2005
105
Def 1 took this shit
Jun 15th 2005
122
RE: MCee VS Def 1
Jun 18th 2005
137
hdub VS Zin
Jun 15th 2005
67
RE: hdub VS Zin
Jun 15th 2005
68
hdub VS Zin
Jun 15th 2005
70
i gotta cosign here
Jun 15th 2005
92
This is close..
Jun 15th 2005
72
don't count this vote, but i say hdub takes it
Jun 15th 2005
73
Vote: Zin
Jun 15th 2005
82
my badd zin for postin the wrong verse...
Jun 15th 2005
75
Zin
Jun 15th 2005
76
RE: hdub VS Zin
Jun 15th 2005
100
RE: hdub VS Zin
Jun 15th 2005
108
c'mon man....i ain't even gonna say shit
Jun 15th 2005
112
RE: hdub VS Zin
Jun 15th 2005
118
Zin
Jun 15th 2005
125
RE: Zin
Jun 16th 2005
129
      RE: Zin
Jun 18th 2005
138
My 2 cents........
Jun 16th 2005
133
nuke vs Prolif
Jun 15th 2005
77
Nuke vs Prolif
Jun 15th 2005
81
Vote: Prolif
Jun 15th 2005
85
cosign...Prolif
Jun 15th 2005
95
Prolif
Jun 15th 2005
96
RE: nuke vs Prolif
Jun 15th 2005
101
*Sheeesh*
Jun 15th 2005
111
Analysis:
Jun 15th 2005
115
Prolif obliterated him
Jun 15th 2005
119
RE: nuke vs Prolif
Jun 15th 2005
127
RE: nuke vs Prolif
Jun 16th 2005
134
prolif won
Jun 18th 2005
139
MiracleRic vs Rajeniro
Jun 15th 2005
78
RE: MiracleRic vs Rajeniro
Jun 15th 2005
84
Vote: Rajeniro
Jun 15th 2005
87
MiracleRic vs Rajeniro
Jun 15th 2005
91
co-sign on this...
Jun 15th 2005
110
i hate making excuses but work i pulled 12 hr shifts mon. and tues.
Jun 18th 2005
145
MiracleRic
Jun 15th 2005
97
true true , and he did some name dropping on that one
Jun 19th 2005
147
RE: MiracleRic vs Rajeniro
Jun 15th 2005
102
ric...
Jun 15th 2005
107
Well Shitt!!!
Jun 15th 2005
113
RE: MiracleRic vs Rajeniro
Jun 15th 2005
116
i agree
Jun 16th 2005
131
true last line was not a finisher, i was out of time inboxed it at 9:30 ...
Jun 18th 2005
146
vote=Ric
Jun 18th 2005
140
close, imma go with Rajeniro757
Jun 18th 2005
144
Biohazard vs southernboy_423
Jun 15th 2005
79
RE: Biohazard vs southernboy_423
Jun 15th 2005
83
Vote: Southernboy_423
Jun 15th 2005
89
i read dub's exhibit A shit
Jun 15th 2005
90
      i agree Southernboy
Jun 15th 2005
98
      i agree Southernboy
Jun 15th 2005
99
           does Zin get 2 votes cuz he's a bigger person?
Jun 15th 2005
123
Biohazard
Jun 15th 2005
86
RE: Biohazard vs southernboy_423
Jun 15th 2005
88
Biohazard vs southernboy_423
Jun 15th 2005
93
Biohazard
Jun 15th 2005
94
RE: Biohazard vs southernboy_423
Jun 15th 2005
103
biohazard....
Jun 15th 2005
109
Ewwwwwwww ...
Jun 15th 2005
114
when Photo says this, you KNOW you gotta step ya game up
Jun 15th 2005
121
RE: Ewwwwwwww ...
Jun 16th 2005
128
      RE: Ewwwwwwww ...
Jun 16th 2005
132
           RE: Ewwwwwwww ...
Jun 17th 2005
135
RE: Biohazard vs southernboy_423
Jun 15th 2005
117
i dig!
Jun 15th 2005
126
and the two whitest battle rappers are...
Jun 15th 2005
120
vote:bio
Jun 18th 2005
141
      RE: vote:bio
Jun 18th 2005
142
           RE: vote:bio
Jun 18th 2005
143
                RE: vote:bio
Jun 19th 2005
148
Round 2 Results....
Jun 20th 2005
149

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