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jbeez00
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"The Roots Need Rick Rubin"


          

It's clear that the Roots sound no longer has traction in today's market. The last two albums have been commercial disappointments - 2 strikes. And yet they continue to produce critically acclaimed music themselves, while the market has moved on. Whenever groups start pointing fingers at others but themselves for failures, historically that's always been the first step towards the exit. Not many bands can remain relevant after 15 years - if the Roots fail again, they'll be touring until the wheels fall off.

Don't get it twisted, I'm one of the 200K or so that thought Game Theory was worth my paper. It was a multi-layered, effects-drenched, melodically progressive look-ma-no-hands-flying-faders masterpiece, but Hov is not going to bury himself and Def Jam trying to force kids to appreciate the intricacies of False Media.

Sound familiar? The Roots need to bring somebody from the outside in to help them sharpen their songs without compromising their integrity. Jamming with strippers or compensating with studio wizardry and overproduction is not gonna cut it.

Hands up if you think "The Roots : Produced by Rick Rubin" sounds like the truth.





  

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The Roots Need Rick Rubin [View all] , jbeez00, Sat Dec-09-06 06:59 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Roots don't need shit
Dec 10th 2006
1
word
Dec 10th 2006
2
RE: Roots don't need shit
Dec 12th 2006
100
RE: The Roots Need Rick Rubin
Dec 10th 2006
3
OK
Dec 10th 2006
12
we considered rick too
Dec 10th 2006
4
RE: we considered rick too
Dec 10th 2006
5
how about jon brion? (n/m)
Dec 10th 2006
13
      RE: how about jon brion? (n/m)
Dec 10th 2006
14
           RE: how about jon brion? (n/m)
Dec 13th 2006
108
if relevance is winning...
Dec 10th 2006
6
between the three:
Dec 10th 2006
7
RE: between the three:
Dec 10th 2006
15
RE: between the three:
Dec 10th 2006
17
RE: between the three:
Dec 11th 2006
66
to compete? *SLAP BITCH* (c) Chappelle
Dec 10th 2006
22
did you say the next album is called "russian roulette"?
Dec 10th 2006
8
RE: did you say the next album is called "russian roulette"?
Dec 10th 2006
11
its called let them eat cake
Dec 10th 2006
27
      cool but also loved 'the long count'
Dec 11th 2006
48
seems like you have painted yourselves into a corner or something...
Dec 10th 2006
9
well give me suggestions
Dec 10th 2006
19
suggestions
Dec 10th 2006
23
hell yes (c) beck
Dec 10th 2006
28
RE: suggestions
Dec 12th 2006
92
i mean i dont think im fit to give u suggestions on your IMAGE...
Dec 10th 2006
29
thoughts
Dec 11th 2006
45
RE: thoughts
Dec 13th 2006
104
adding
Dec 13th 2006
112
what might work
Dec 11th 2006
53
RE: what might work
Dec 11th 2006
67
you already know what im gonna say
Dec 11th 2006
72
I AGREE.
Dec 12th 2006
85
good idea
Dec 12th 2006
87
i always wanted to hear the roots band do a funkier album
Dec 11th 2006
74
RE: well give me suggestions
Dec 12th 2006
101
RE: seems like you have painted yourselves into a corner or something...
Dec 13th 2006
117
RE: we considered rick too
Dec 10th 2006
10
I know who EXACTLY could do this....
Dec 11th 2006
32
theoretically perhaps
Dec 11th 2006
50
who the fuck does this clown think he is?
Dec 11th 2006
65
Interesting Thoughts
Dec 11th 2006
58
YES, i got skillz to say he quits and now this:
Dec 11th 2006
73
RE: we considered rick too
Dec 12th 2006
88
nah, fuck that
Dec 12th 2006
94
Honestly, Quest...
Dec 12th 2006
99
RE: we considered rick too
Dec 13th 2006
118
I hear Rick is a Prick (capital P)
Dec 10th 2006
16
nah, im a good guy
Dec 12th 2006
95
Rick Rubin shouldn't waste his time.
Dec 10th 2006
18
ahhh i see great ponderers at work eh?
Dec 10th 2006
20
      Make A Deep Funk Album...
Dec 11th 2006
38
      if they went deep funk, I'd want Sly moreso than the Meters
Dec 14th 2006
125
      RE: ahhh i see great ponderers at work eh?
Dec 14th 2006
123
Nah, I don't think they need Rick
Dec 10th 2006
21
I agree here.
Dec 10th 2006
25
the roots need chucho valdes to produce their next record
Dec 10th 2006
24
btw this could also open up touring possibilities in Mexico
Dec 12th 2006
82
      RE: btw this could also open up touring possibilities in Mexico
Dec 12th 2006
84
           seriously i think the whole latin jazz movement from cuba during
Dec 13th 2006
105
honestly, WHY dont you just go indie? do you REALLY need the major $?
Dec 10th 2006
26
yes i do need the money
Dec 11th 2006
41
      wow...
Dec 11th 2006
42
      i understand your expenses, freal, but im sayin ...
Dec 11th 2006
43
      simple
Dec 11th 2006
51
           um...300K X 5 = 1.5 mil divided by 6 = 250K each,
Dec 11th 2006
52
                RE: um...300K X 5 = 1.5 mil divided by 6 = 250K each,
Dec 11th 2006
54
                oh my bad
Dec 11th 2006
71
                For the Roots
Dec 12th 2006
91
                     RE: For the Roots
Dec 14th 2006
126
                hahaha, we the fuck did you get 5 dollars per cd from?
Dec 11th 2006
75
                     i meant a good indie deal, and youre right ? totally blanked
Dec 12th 2006
83
      RE: yes i do need the money
Dec 11th 2006
57
      of course
Dec 11th 2006
59
      RE: yes i do need the money
Dec 13th 2006
110
What about sittin in with some crazy people?
Dec 10th 2006
30
dangermouse is not a bad idea
Dec 11th 2006
76
maybe a..
Dec 10th 2006
31
RE: Rick Rubin is an ill produce
Dec 11th 2006
33
Open a Club
Dec 11th 2006
34
everything you said was decent until
Dec 11th 2006
35
it was a
Dec 11th 2006
36
sounds like a good plan !
Dec 11th 2006
55
The subscription idea
Dec 11th 2006
69
      also
Dec 11th 2006
70
cbgb couldnt even afford to pay their rent, how do you think it will
Dec 11th 2006
77
      CBGB could pay their rent!!!!!!
Dec 12th 2006
80
The Roots Need Fans that Actually Buy the Album....
Dec 11th 2006
37
Here's a thought-no christopher rios...
Dec 11th 2006
40
RE: The Roots Need Fans that Actually Buy the Album....
Dec 11th 2006
64
they just need to carry on what they were doing on GT
Dec 11th 2006
39
Steven Drozd would do wonders
Dec 11th 2006
44
actually...Rick Rubin is exactly what they don't need
Dec 11th 2006
46
dear child of the 90s
Dec 13th 2006
116
      i expected a bullshit response like this...lol
Dec 13th 2006
121
why not take your 2-3 favorite records from each album...
Dec 11th 2006
47
RE: why not take your 2-3 favorite records from each album...
Dec 12th 2006
89
*i was here* *this post is AWESOME*
Dec 11th 2006
49
THE BOTTOM LINE REMAINS
Dec 11th 2006
56
and also : spend more time OFFline ?uest
Dec 11th 2006
61
..see 'game theory'.
Dec 11th 2006
63
RE: The Roots Need Rick Rubin
Dec 11th 2006
60
humor me
Dec 11th 2006
68
      RE: humor me
Dec 12th 2006
90
why not take some cues from the sneaker culture...
Dec 11th 2006
62
hahaha @ this idea
Dec 11th 2006
78
how about some Green Day Amercian Idiot...
Dec 12th 2006
79
don't get me wrong i love prince paul but
Dec 12th 2006
81
RE: The Roots Need Rick Rubin
Dec 12th 2006
86
thats not what he was saying
Dec 12th 2006
93
The Roots' problem doesn't lie with their production
Dec 12th 2006
96
get back on some ''the tipping point'' shit.
Dec 12th 2006
97
i do think TTP is the favorite album at first glance of ppl
Dec 13th 2006
106
I don't think he'd do much for them
Dec 12th 2006
98
Explain to me what Rick Rubin could do
Dec 12th 2006
102
in short, introduce them to a new fanbase
Dec 13th 2006
107
spot on
Dec 14th 2006
124
if you don't have time to listen to all that music
Dec 13th 2006
113
RE: The Roots Need Rick Rubin
Dec 13th 2006
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RE: The Roots Need Rick Rubin
Dec 13th 2006
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RE: The Roots Need Rick Rubin
Dec 13th 2006
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RE: The Roots Need Rick Rubin
Dec 13th 2006
114
The Roots Need Steve Stoute...
Dec 13th 2006
115
RE: The Roots Need Steve Stoute...
Dec 13th 2006
119
      some people have expertise in areas individuals lack...
Dec 13th 2006
120
SHUT THAT SHIT UP!!! HOW BOUT YOU BUY SOME MORE COPIES!!!
Dec 13th 2006
122
no album-->>BUZZ BUILDING SIDE-PROJECT TIME
Jan 03rd 2007
127

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