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32. "Sometimes it has nothing to do with culture..."
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>Will the ROOTS be around after whites <BR>>no longer find it hip to <BR>>like our culture?!? <P>Sometimes music is just music. Sometimes it has nothing to do with culture. Are you trying to say that to like a particular type of music, you have to be "hip" to the culture that produces it? If you are I think you are generalizing quite a bit too far. In my case, I like some spanish (flamenco) music, do I like it becuase I think the spanish culture is "Hip"? No, I like it becuase like the complex guitar strumming and the rhythm. (not to say that the spanish culture is not "hip", i'm not too familiar with it) I started liking Hip Hop way back in the day when I was still a "Metal Head". I liked it, but my friends would have made fun of me so I just liked it in private. Why did I start liking it? Because I liked the beat and the rhyme, I'm still amazed to this day how some people can string words together and come up with such complex metaphors and messages in their rhymes. Do I know everything about Hip-Hop culture? No, and I don't pretend to, but as it is in my case, I started liking the music way before it was considered "hip" for whites to like it. I'm Greek, and if you said, hey, I like the way that guy plays that funny looking guitar, I wouldn't ask you if it was because you think it's "hip" to like it, I'd say, that's cool man, music should be enjoyed by everyone. If they wanted to learn about the culture after that, I'd be happy to break it down for them. But I agree with you that there are too many people who listen to hip-hop and say they love hip-hop but don't know why. Maybe those of us that are a little more familiar with the story should take it upon ourselves to school them and give them some knowledge instead of condemming them. If afterwards they still stay ignorant, they should be condemmed.<P>The people that should be called out are the record executives and the such that are Exploiting hip-hop culture and the people who follow it blindly because they have no mind of their own to make decisions. I know what I like and why I like it.<P>Peace,<BR>Phil<P>"Okayplayer.com, first the Web, next, the World!" - Phil copyright 1999<BR>"Phil, You're a Genius" - Kayci Copyright 1999<BR>"I'm not a genius, I just say what other people should be thinking." - Phil Copyright 1999

  

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Why was Eve not in the &quot;You got me video?&quot; [View all] , Cees, Wed Jul-28-99 08:06 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Bad timing?
Tone
Jul 28th 1999
1
Some people do think its Erykah
Cees
Jul 28th 1999
2
      Come now...
Jul 28th 1999
4
      does it look like she needs exposure???
WORD SMITH
Jul 28th 1999
14
      I don't think she cares now
BTMB?HKDR
Jul 28th 1999
5
      Eve needs as much as she can get
Cees
Jul 28th 1999
7
           I know you probably didn't mean it like that, but...
Jul 28th 1999
11
           You ARE reading too much into this...
Cees
Jul 28th 1999
12
           WHITE PEOPLE
WORD SMITH
Jul 28th 1999
15
                EXPLOITATION OF BLACK CULTURE
BILAL
Jul 29th 1999
28
                     AROUND?
WORD SMITH
Jul 30th 1999
30
                     Good point
Cees
Jul 30th 1999
31
                    
                     from the hip...
WORD SMITH
Jul 30th 1999
33
                     from the hip II
WORD SMITH
Jul 30th 1999
34
                     Reply
Jul 30th 1999
36
                          okay, phil...
WORD SMITH
Jul 30th 1999
37
                               Words Smith
Cees
Jul 30th 1999
38
                                    Real quick...
Jul 30th 1999
39
                     Tired of white people.. PERIOD
Catharsis_MI
Aug 05th 1999
57
                          GET A CLUE
WORD SMITH
Aug 06th 1999
62
                     come on now
KRISTINA
Jul 30th 1999
40
                     I'm glad you feel that way, but...
Jul 30th 1999
41
                     oh, boy...
WORD SMITH
Jul 30th 1999
42
                     WUT????????
Jul 30th 1999
44
                          now... TO NESTA
WORD SMITH
Jul 30th 1999
47
                               Anyhoo!
Jul 30th 1999
49
                     and...
WORD SMITH
Jul 30th 1999
43
                          Now you're buggin!
Jul 30th 1999
45
                          NESTA!!!
WORD SMITH
Jul 30th 1999
46
                               My BAD!
Jul 30th 1999
48
                     I'm offend by this....
Oktagon Samurai
Jul 30th 1999
51
                     who needs fakers?
Jul 30th 1999
52
                          yo i havn't heard somebody say that in the longest
iNDUCE
Aug 03rd 1999
55
                               &quot;BILAL SPEAKS!!&quot;
BILAL
Aug 05th 1999
61
                                    word up
WORD SMITH
Aug 06th 1999
63
                                    is this bilal...
iNDUCE
Aug 08th 1999
66
      &quot;Who's that guy on Erykah's song?&quot;
Jul 28th 1999
22
           What IS Erykah saying ?
Cees
Jul 29th 1999
24
                Lyrics
Jul 29th 1999
25
I did
Jul 28th 1999
3
Read the Liner Notes!
Jul 28th 1999
6
Yeah, right
Jul 28th 1999
10
      ROOTS/JAY-Z COLLAB
WORD SMITH
Jul 28th 1999
16
ms badu
Doctor Squeegee
Jul 28th 1999
8
Yup!
Jul 28th 1999
9
      erykah/rhyming
WORD SMITH
Jul 28th 1999
17
      apples and peaches.........nm
Jul 28th 1999
21
erykah's verses....
Jul 30th 1999
50
Big up to Cees
Jul 28th 1999
13
Big up to you too bc n/m
Cees
Jul 29th 1999
23
reasons
Jul 28th 1999
18
bullworth soundtrack
Jul 28th 1999
19
one more thing
Jul 28th 1999
20
      I usually hate when others do this, but
natural1
Jul 30th 1999
35
B.R.O.T.H.E.R.?.
Mal
Jul 29th 1999
26
BDS.... Beats Da Shit outta me...
Jul 29th 1999
29
response to ?'s response...
gREG bASS
Aug 03rd 1999
53
Quest's FAQ
Cees
Jul 29th 1999
27
where in the video
emceefaceless
Aug 03rd 1999
54
possibilities
WORD SMITH
Aug 06th 1999
64
      Gotcha!
Cees
Aug 06th 1999
65
i know why
iNDUCE
Aug 03rd 1999
56
badu has 5 star power
HoMeBrO
Aug 05th 1999
58
anudr ?uestion
Mr. ShizzaBits
Aug 05th 1999
59
n/m ma ?uestion
Mr. ShizzaBits
Aug 05th 1999
60

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