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47. "Similar but different..."
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I'm not exactly sure which track the roots used schooly d's beat from, but i agree with u in one way, and disagree with you in another.
I agree that alot of artists take from other artist's and rehash shit up, sometimes they make things different or unrecognizable.
Everyone is taking something from someone, no one is free of influences. Everything is borrowed or has "interpolations" of (damn i hate that word..) something. Not much is really unique and fresh.
But what i disagree with u on is on the timing of the "biting".
From your message, you said that the roots sampled a schooly d track from 15 years ago. Sampling is sampling, your right. But musiq is biting tracks that were hot like 2 years ago. that's still fresh..
Schooly D's stuff was dated for that time period. So the Roots rehashing it was more of bringing something from the past they liked and working it in to their steelo. The roots & schooly d have no real link when it comes to production sound or technique.
But for musiq, it's different in my opinion.
why? because when your fucking with somebody's sound and not doing just one track, but basing your whole production style exactly like someone else's, then your no better than the dj scenario i pointed out-- Your just riding your vocals over someone else's instrumentals. And mind you, on musiq's cd, it isn't just one track that has "elements" of someone else's tracks. We're talking about almost the whole cd.
But what comes through over and over again is the sound throughout the whole lp--- same sound & style as the soulquarian's shit.
What would you think when you would hear people biting dj premier's sound. A few years back when primo was at the top of his game, a year or so later, you would see so many styles that emulated his sound and production techniques. Is that cool?? no, not really, because someone like me could spot it a mile away and would lose respect for those guy's who did that shit.
So what? those guys should take pride in cracking primo's formula's and saying "hey, look..i know what primo does and can do the same thing.." ---- big deal.
One thing's for sure, there is no shortage of biters in this world. Not just musically, but in every facet. just those type of individuals who don't get the whole notion of what it is to create and shine your own unique voice --to make your own imprint on who you are so others know what your about.
That to me is the esssence.
Musiq may be the coolest guy around, he definitely can sing, the tracks sound really good. there not cheesy. but all this gets defaulted because he didn't bring it on by creating his own unique sound.
i respect your opinion & see your point, but i still disagree.
peace.

  

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?uestlove Produces New Musiq Track!!! [View all] , BigWorm, Sun Apr-01-01 11:50 AM
 
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good one nm
Apr 01st 2001
1
RE: ?uestlove Produces New Musiq Track!!!
dabaddestcat1
Apr 01st 2001
2
Musiq - is that YOU?!
octogon
Apr 01st 2001
3
cool down
Apr 01st 2001
4
wrong..biting is biting
Apr 02nd 2001
15
      RE: wrong..biting is biting
dabaddestcat1
Apr 07th 2001
37
      RE: wrong..biting is biting
Apr 07th 2001
41
      Two Snaps.
Apr 09th 2001
42
      RE: wrong..biting is biting
Apr 09th 2001
43
          
LOL...
Apr 01st 2001
5
I saw that!
Apr 03rd 2001
21
we spoke yesterday
Apr 02nd 2001
6
A friend of mine...
Apr 02nd 2001
7
      well he ain't a soul-ar
Apr 02nd 2001
8
           Good luck with that.
octogon
Apr 02nd 2001
9
           well.......judging by his soundscan reports
Apr 07th 2001
38
                A little confused...
Apr 07th 2001
39
                lemme guess...
Apr 07th 2001
40
           how much pull do you got?
Apr 02nd 2001
10
                RE: how much pull do you got?
vuduchild
Apr 02nd 2001
11
                uh...
Apr 02nd 2001
12
                RE: uh...
vuduchild
Apr 02nd 2001
13
                     ummmm
Apr 02nd 2001
14
                     His next album?
octogon
Apr 02nd 2001
16
                          stop!
Apr 03rd 2001
17
                               It was a joke, money - just relax.
octogon
Apr 03rd 2001
18
                                    aiight man.
Apr 03rd 2001
23
                                    oops
Apr 03rd 2001
24
                                         No beef.
octogon
Apr 03rd 2001
25
                RE: how much pull do you got?
Apr 03rd 2001
22
                RE: how much pull do you got?
dabaddestcat1
Apr 03rd 2001
26
                scratch that..
Apr 03rd 2001
20
                Two Snaps again...
Apr 09th 2001
44
RE: I can't believe i fell for this...
Apr 03rd 2001
19
Check Musiq live
Apr 03rd 2001
27
MUSIQ'S PRODUCERS......
Apr 03rd 2001
28
as far as I know
Apr 03rd 2001
29
      EXECUTIVE PRODUCER
Apr 03rd 2001
30
      but really
Apr 04th 2001
31
      i didnt say that
Apr 05th 2001
32
EVERYTIME I GET OUT, THEY PULL ME BACK IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 05th 2001
33
      Well would you look at that...
octogon
Apr 05th 2001
34
      Lemme clarify
Apr 05th 2001
35
      slow down.....
Apr 06th 2001
36
      For a Third time....
Apr 09th 2001
45
Puhleez
Apr 09th 2001
46
"And the hating...
DirtyArt
Apr 13th 2001
48

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