i dont know, the phatest beats? naw, what about primo, pete rock, jay dee, hi tek, diamond d, alchemist(even though he can be hit and miss) the rza(same as alchemist but a bit more consistent) and as far a rhymes being the phatest how about ras kass, canibus, redman, common, mos def jus to name a few, yes da roots is nice but before u start proclaimin they got the livest beats and rhymes, u should put that 'imo' in front of da shit like everybody else. and if they is legendary then so is da Wu.